Lift plan

V8Druid

V8Druid

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Has anyone, probably @V8Druid or @Mogman got an old lift plan I can see a copy of.
lift plan or RAMS ... been a very long time since I did one and almost certainly burnt all / most of my paperwork long ago -- could ask Russ for a copy of an old one
 
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Smiffy

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lift plan or RAMS ... been a very long time since I did one and almost certainly burnt all / most of my paperwork long ago -- could ask Russ for a copy of an old one

Lift plan. I just need to see how much details the diagrams go into as mine has been rejected.
 
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Smiffy

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Post up a photo of your lift diagram, details will depend on lift type.

It wasn't anything great tbh and Arial view of an excavator, box for body stick for boom and annotated with obstacles distance from excavations radius of load. And safe/prohibited spaces. Then one to show lift height. Very much 4 year old level of drawing. Then a written paragraph of how the load would be slung. What rigging equipment used. Ground conditions where it would start and end, how it would be final positioned and communication details and machinery details
This was submitted with a permit to lift going into detail about the equipment with certificates and id numbers. Tickets safety procedures and so on. No query on the permit but they didn't like the lift plan. Yet I can't really see what I have missed.
 
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kato512

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It wasn't anything great tbh and Arial view of an excavator, box for body stick for boom and annotated with obstacles distance from excavations radius of load. And safe/prohibited spaces. Then one to show lift height. Very much 4 year old level of drawing. Then a written paragraph of how the load would be slung. What rigging equipment used. Ground conditions where it would start and end, how it would be final positioned and communication details and machinery details
This was submitted with a permit to lift going into detail about the equipment with certificates and id numbers. Tickets safety procedures and so on. No query on the permit but they didn't like the lift plan. Yet I can't really see what I have missed.
I've never done a lift plan for an excavator only cranes and forklifts. If you included the lift capacity chart to show that you are within the limits including a 10% safety factor. They're being petty on the drawings.
 
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Smiffy

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I've never done a lift plan for an excavator only cranes and forklifts. If you included the lift capacity chart to show that you are within the limits including a 10% safety factor. They're being petty on the drawings.

A photo of the lift chart is on the permit. I think it's confusion being added by the permit to lift as as far as I can tell the permit to lift and lift plan are 90% reapting themselves.

Also trying to digitize everything on safety culture so need to find a way of being able to fill this in digitally.
 
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Smiffy

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i can send a couple of recent ones over if you need.
I have one this week for a 15t machine lifting various bits inc attenuation tanks.

That would be very useful.

I think it was you that recommended safety culture. We are starting to build up health and safety forms on there.
Do you put things like lift plans on there ??
 
kabin man

kabin man

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That would be very useful.

I think it was you that recommended safety culture. We are starting to build up health and safety forms on there.
Do you put things like lift plans on there ??
I don't use safety culture anymore, all change for me now.
We have large H+S dept, and our subbies rams are distributed out to the employees that visit site.
We usually have the subbies bring a folder with hard copies as well..
Drop me a a email address and i will see what i can send over if it helps.
I'm not an expert or anything like it,but i see quite a few RAMS over the course of a project.
Some are sent to clients like Kier,Mace etc and generally accepted,but sometimes its stupid little details that they want changed.

Like one recently that was rejected because where it stated 'the site' in the numerous pages within the doc, they wanted this changed to the full site address..
As in 'when a delivery comes to site'..Tedious to say the least..
 
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Smiffy

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I don't use safety culture anymore, all change for me now.
We have large H+S dept, and our subbies rams are distributed out to the employees that visit site.
We usually have the subbies bring a folder with hard copies as well..
Drop me a a email address and i will see what i can send over if it helps.
I'm not an expert or anything like it,but i see quite a few RAMS over the course of a project.
Some are sent to clients like Kier,Mace etc and generally accepted,but sometimes its stupid little details that they want changed.

Like one recently that was rejected because where it stated 'the site' in the numerous pages within the doc, they wanted this changed to the full site address..
As in 'when a delivery comes to site'..Tedious to say the least..

Thanks. @Monkeybusiness has sent me a really good copy of a lift plan and along with the lorry loader document posted I am going to review it all on Monday. And hopefully review our lifting rams as well as I know what we have needs improving.
 
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