pettsy
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Everyone wants to pass the blame these days, had the same with an Isuzu Dmax!
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Brendan
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Lancs Lad
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Yep ..but I was first told by VW that they were fitted as standard. ..then told you can't fit canopys..ongoing.
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Brendan
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Might only be factory fit if ordered with a canopy or rolltop. Only way to tell is reove the arch liner and see if they are there. From the ford versions they leave the problem with the aftermarket people who either don't know or care
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
what the hell do they need these for if the headboard is properly secured to the rest of the tub?? ..... looks to be a design problem if they're having to add on bits of brackets to keep the tub together 
if fitting a canopy to the upper rim of the tub, if it isn't a secure perimeter, causes issues, there is obviously a flaw in the design
if fitting a canopy to the upper rim of the tub, if it isn't a secure perimeter, causes issues, there is obviously a flaw in the design
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Monkeybusiness
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You’d think the addition of a canopy would add rigidity to the tub - I guess they must have had issues with chassis/tub flex leading to canopies making contact with the back of the crewcab possibly?what the hell do they need these for if the headboard is properly secured to the rest of the tub?? ..... looks to be a design problem if they're having to add on bits of brackets to keep the tub together
if fitting a canopy to the upper rim of the tub, if it isn't a secure perimeter, causes issues, there is obviously a flaw in the design
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DaveDCB
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It’s such a ridiculous situation!!! It’s literally one of two options everyone adds to a pickup - a canopy or a roller track!!
Lancs Lad
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Exactly. Something is not adding up.
Spoken to canopy manufacturers who I know and trust and they're not to fussed but as I said there's more to this than meets the eye and I don't know the whole story...yet
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DaveDCB
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“The distinguished history of the Toyota Hilux will open a new chapter with the launch of a new 48V mild hybrid electric version. An electric motor will
support the pick-up’s 2.8-litre engine, giving more responsive acceleration, improved braking and a smoother ride, together with greater fuel efficiency. “
I don’t care about efficiency, I want big diesel power!!!!
I don’t care about efficiency, I want big diesel power!!!!
Lancs Lad
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Think 20mpg if you lucky and about 15 mile on battery.
No surprise why massive waiting list on V6 roks and rangers.
V8Druid
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Monkeybusiness
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Tick the woke boxwhat is the bloody point
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6feetdown
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Probably to satisfy some bs eu directive
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Smiffy
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what is the bloody point
Modern engines being so strangled by emission tech the addition of hybrid tech allows manufacturers to deliver the ever increasing performance that people want.
The 2.8 Hilux is ok but uninspiring. The 2.4 is flat as hell.
Tbh additional performance is the best use for battery tech. Far better than aiming to replace internal combustion
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DaveDCB
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My disco has something similar, you’d never know it’s got any elec in it at all, but what it does do is fill the gap in turbo lag etc.. self charging so no buggery cables.what is the bloody point
Does a work pickup need it? No, does it hell, I just want pulling power and if I desire the ability to reach 60mph before the moon comes up!
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
looking at the way the hybrid 'tech' works on some vehicles - beefed up starter motor to add power - how long is that likely to survive regular/daily usage ???? .... or the batteries?
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DaveDCB
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No idea, but i bloody hate stop start! I’d happily have it removed from any vehicle!
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
can't you switch it off?
Vicki's Skoda you can and has to be switched back on - our Kia has to be disabled every time you get in it
as does a lot of the so called 'safety' crap ... lane alert, lane assist, anti-collision, etc., etc. ... PITFA .. forget it and it continually 'grabs' the wheel ... disconcerting in the lanes as it forces/steers you away from the hedge and into the middle of the road ... asked them to disable it all as I did not want it as 'default' ... can't do it ... Kia's policy is all 'safety' features must default and you have to turn them off .. several operations each time you start it ... otherwise I still like it as a drive ... other bugbear is you can't hear it - literally ... have to drive it on the rev counter below 2.5k, which I have no issue with .. Pam struggles with the concept, especially at junctions
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Monkeybusiness
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Exactly this - I’ve got a 2.8 hilux and bought it largely because it has a decent sized engine. It should be a great truck but it’s very ‘meh’ if I’m honest, I preferred my pre-adblu 2l Navara to drive.
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Brendan
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Most can be deactivated, fords through forscan or just wait for your battery to loose some voltage, some times something as simple as disconnecting the sensor near the negative terminal will also do it.
Ranger will also have a mild hybrid in 2025 so assume the amarok will be too
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