So what is it the Santa bringing that you have bought and paid for/to yourself ? 🤪

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DaveDCB

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I wouldn’t suggest investing in the big Stihl battery saw if you are hoping it will replace bigger petrol models - you will be both disappointed and significantly poorer. They are a white elephant imo - you need to spend on several batteries and then lug them around the workplace if you have anything significant to fell/crosscut.
The Makita 36v saws are great for little odds and sods. We’ve got husky top handles and they kick the arse of the Makita stuff but aren’t anywhere close to petrol saws.
Your lads were singing the praises of the husky battery pole saw..
looked to do the same job as my Stihl pole saw - with a lot less faffing starting it up just for the odd branch etc!
 
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Monkeybusiness

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Your lads were singing the praises of the husky battery pole saw..
looked to do the same job as my Stihl pole saw - with a lot less faffing starting it up just for the odd branch etc!
The pole saws and hedge cutters are good - don’t need much power as are only pulling small bars (and the weight of the big battery actually helps to balance the long reach kit).
It’s the bigger electric chainsaws that aren’t all that good - professional petrol saws are mega (always have been but some of the saws nowadays are ridiculously good) and battery kit doesn’t get a look in if using for production cutting (forestry felling, brashing out and/or cross-cutting).
 
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DaveDCB

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The pole saws and hedge cutters are good - don’t need much power as are only pulling small bars (and the weight of the big battery actually helps to balance the long reach kit).
It’s the bigger electric chainsaws that aren’t all that good - professional petrol saws are mega (always have been but some of the saws nowadays are ridiculously good) and battery kit doesn’t get a look in if using for production cutting (forestry felling, brashing out and/or cross-cutting).
They’d end up like scaffolders - wanting power straight away to charge batteries up for the impact drivers, except in the middle of nowhere in a field! Not ideal!
 
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Storrsy

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The pole saws and hedge cutters are good - don’t need much power as are only pulling small bars (and the weight of the big battery actually helps to balance the long reach kit).
It’s the bigger electric chainsaws that aren’t all that good - professional petrol saws are mega (always have been but some of the saws nowadays are ridiculously good) and battery kit doesn’t get a look in if using for production cutting (forestry felling, brashing out and/or cross-cutting).
Fair point if doing any production cutting because clearly you won't have enough batteries to keep up.But from what I can tell on videos the MSA 300 is quicker than the MS261 they were comparing it to so would have thought those who just need to do a tanks worth here and there the battery version holds more merit?
 
William127

William127

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They’d end up like scaffolders - wanting power straight away to charge batteries up for the impact drivers, except in the middle of nowhere in a field! Not ideal!
Bit of organisation needed- I've got 2 of the small Packout organisers for batteries, 1 with 7 batteries, 1 with 3 and a charger. 2 or 3 chargers set up at home, easy charge them in the evening. If I need more than 5 pairs during the day, I'm using the wrong tool!
Of course that's easy to say as a one man band, not so easy if you run a team, especially if they're scaffolders🍌....
 
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William127

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Only after I got my new truck did I realise theres a 240V socket in the cab! Ruddy handy for cordless stuff charging...
My rangers got am inverter in, I was really pleased about that when it arrived.
Turns out I've barely used it, which is weird as a few years ago I had an inverter fitted that moved through 3 or 4 vehicles as they came and went, was essential. I suspect it's just the shear amount of batteries I now have 😆 🤣
 
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A nice set of impact sockets and a pry bar set to myself ☺️

I'm actually quite chuffed with the pry bars for the money
 
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Stroppymonkey

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You could be right tbh. They're certainly pretty dear once you factor in a few batteries. I can get the msa 220 with 2 ap300 batteries for around a grand. Trouble is the mak as handy as it is just isn't quite powerful enough for me not to bring a petrol when doing fencing work and the like, knocking back overhanging branches for access etc. Id hope the more powerful Stihl/husky would fill that void quite nicely. The biggest convenience for me is not having to deal with petrol, it stinks the truck out, a pain to have to go to the garage to get and mix up etc and really I just want the saw behind the seat ready for all eventualities.
Try Aspen 2....
 
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doobin

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That’s mint! Does it have reverse drive?
Of course! Little point otherwise ;)

I spend months considering whether to get one of these (38hp) or go up to 60-80 hp. But then transport becomes an issue, and you will struggle to get the tractor and implement moved in one hit. I also don't want to start chasing other work using more diesel, such as mulching.

From using the old one for a year or so, I'm convinced the hydro transmission makes you back via efficiency the difference in power between 38hp and 60hp. The BCS Spirit 70 (63hp) looked nice and would be towable with implement. But it's a huge chunk of change more (£48k with electric joystick vs £35k with electric joystick for the Carrarro). And it's only got four gears in three ranges with bugger all overlap between ranges. It does have an electronic clutch to save your foot. But that's not the same as easing off your right foot just enough to get through a tough patch of grass, and then straight back up to optimum speed.

Anyway, Kilworth didn't seem to want to sell (salesman never got back to me despite multiple texts and calls for a demo/more details), whereas Kirkland have been very enthusiastic regarding parts for my current model and selling me a new one. I think 38hp hydrostatic is equal in efficiency for my work to 63hp geared, and Antonio Carraro are pretty much the Rolls Royce of alpine tractors also. I just know I'd not be happy with gears.
 
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