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BillybobLockwood

BillybobLockwood

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question for you @BillybobLockwood ...... is equipment cheaper in the States? :unsure:
just looking at this which has come up in FB MP -- equates to £984 sterling, which I doubt you'd get that for in the UK? :rolleyes:
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see they're using my trick for a CLRV .... tees and a non return ;)
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I think equipment is WAY more expensive. a New cat 420 backhoe is 175,000 dollars, and a EC02B Tiltrotator is 23K before any buckets or instal.
 
Gunners

Gunners

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Billybob and I have compared prices on work before and we are a lot cheaper here. Same with us vs Scandinavia. Its all relative, you don't want to know how much you can buy a machine for in India but its almost worth the drive over to get one - no stage 5 emissions either, but the local rates do reflect that. Good curry though
 
BillybobLockwood

BillybobLockwood

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You must be charging a shedload more than we do here then to run the gear you do.
I think everything Costs more here, prices Adjust. Work trucks cost 100k, Crushed Gravel is 30/Ton.

The thing that's really different in the USA is the wages in Government projects. Davis-Bacon Wage laws set the wage around 80/HR for operators and 60/HR for laborers. That sets Prices way higher. Unfortunately it also Flattens the wage Curve, and disincentives hard, Productive work.

Fortuntunatly, this makes it easy to make easy to make some really good margins if you get a tight knit group of really skilled and hard working guys.
 
BillybobLockwood

BillybobLockwood

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Wow. Where to start.

Two weeks ago we where Low Bid on an emegency job for Kitsap county parks. Restoring a Tidally Damaged beach, to hopefully prevent the town of Hanesville Washington, from flooding again.

We Started by removing the large wood from the beach. Using the Huddig 1370 with a SK Grapple.
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Next up, Roll the trucks! Hauling in a little under 5000 Tons in 3 days. The majority of the material was dumped at the entrance to site, and Pushed with our D6N, A 14,000 Hour dozer that still puts in the work for us! the rest was dumped in a stockpile and hauled to site with the Huddig.
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Finally, We replaced the large Beach wood in the tidal Protection Zone.
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BillybobLockwood

BillybobLockwood

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We have been busy! Up at 4:30 most mornings, and doing paperwork until 10!

Started a Park job with the 75G For a local City. Building about a mile of trail around a new wetlands area.

I have been attempting to do a thorough study, as to wether any large companies are making a profit in this market.

While it's possible I'm Drawing false conclusions, I have been unable to find even a single example of a medium to large size contractor turning even a modest profit. It's my conclusion, that with the recent low cost of capital, an over saturated market, and legacy competitors, even a 10% net margin is Unachievable.

As such, we've layed off a majority of the crews, and sold most of the equipment we owed money on. Our New strategy involves a few key Component's,

1) Low Debt: Keep payments and leverage to a minimum. better to have fewer machines earning there keep, than a large fleet operating at a loss. We were around 35K a month in payments, I've got it down to about 9K Now.

2) Big jobs: Despite downsizing, the size of work we are bidding is getting much bigger. Bigger work, traditionally built by bigger contractors, usually has much more overhead, and inefficacies bid in as a cost. We can do work others are bidding at 3%, at 30%. So far this is working out to be true. As the owner, I can do the job of Project engineer and estimator myself, while running a crew. It's terribly un-sexy, but it's turning out to be Quite Profitable. Average Job value used to be 250k-600k, Now we are doing 1-3M dollar Jobs. An added benefit is only need to win 2-3 of them a year, instead of 20.

3) Trucking: It seems one of the big profit levers is getting the equipment utilization, and Project performance speed up. Being able to move my own equipment, and do a lot of our own trucking, has helped hugely in this department. Despite cutting the labor force by 3/4, revenue has stayed remarkably, High.

4) Technology: Following in the footsteps of others on here, Doing more with less, we've been investing in tech. Putting triple 3D in the Huddig and 315, and doing all my own layout with the rover.


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if you made it this far, thanks for reading my rant. oh the joys of business.
 

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