RAAC concrete - tip of the iceberg.

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6feetdown

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Said for years, 30 to 40 years knock them down and rebuild. Times move with different learning requirements and new materials and design. Every secondary school in zooport has been renewed in the last 10 years with I think the exception of 1. The difference in new design make learning a hell of a lot more appealing in a bright well insulated environment.
Shame the pupils aren't allowed to think for themselves more and teachers and staff who think they are gods because I'm sure we'd have a better quality if pupils were guided into things they are good at and enjoy.
 
Grahams

Grahams

Don't complain - suggest what's better
What I don’t understand about this is there is an expected lifespan of 30 years. Firstly who would build a building only to last 30 years? And secondly if you did, why would you not plan to rebuild it before the end of the expected life span? Why is it coming as a surprise that it has failed in places after the expected life span?
 
JerryRtilt

JerryRtilt

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Grahams said:
What I don’t understand about this is there is an expected lifespan of 30 years. Firstly who would build a building only to last 30 years? And secondly if you did, why would you not plan to rebuild it before the end of the expected life span? Why is it coming as a surprise that it has failed in places after the expected life span?
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The only answer is short term thinking only as far ahead as the.next election and only act on easily achieved goals that will win you votes, total disregard for the long term good of the country.
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Another thing I reckon is going to be asbestos water pipes. We had one burst in our street. Was quite surprised to realise they asbestos- a bit of googling and apparently 1 in 5 properties are supplied by asbestos pipes in the UK. They have a lifespan of approx 70 years. Doesn't sound great to be honest, but then its effect of failure/contamination wont be as as immediate as Raac so doubt anything will be done about it.
 
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Smiffy

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Storrsy said:
Another thing I reckon is going to be asbestos water pipes. We had one burst in our street. Was quite surprised to realise they asbestos- a bit of googling and apparently 1 in 5 properties are supplied by asbestos pipes in the UK. They have a lifespan of approx 70 years. Doesn't sound great to be honest, but then its effect of failure/contamination wont be as as immediate as Raac so doubt anything will be done about it.
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Luckily we have never got to close to one but apparently even using a breaker near them can cause a fracture and split the whole pipe. Digging them out and disposing of them will be a nightmare
 
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bobthebuilder

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Smiffy said:
Luckily we have never got to close to one but apparently even using a breaker near them can cause a fracture and split the whole pipe. Digging them out and disposing of them will be a nightmare
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they put a new main thru here with a ditch witch ,left the old asbestos one in the ground
 
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Smiffy

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bobthebuilder said:
they put a new main thru here with a ditch witch ,left the old asbestos one in the ground
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But where do you draw the line at it degrading and causing poloution. It's an absolute nightmare to deal with asbestos contaminated soil as it's supposed to be so bad for the soil
 
kabin man

kabin man

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Storrsy said:
Another thing I reckon is going to be asbestos water pipes. We had one burst in our street. Was quite surprised to realise they asbestos- a bit of googling and apparently 1 in 5 properties are supplied by asbestos pipes in the UK. They have a lifespan of approx 70 years. Doesn't sound great to be honest, but then its effect of failure/contamination wont be as as immediate as Raac so doubt anything will be done about it.
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where i lived few yrs back, the last few feet from the asbestos pipe was in lead.. :eek: Been nice knowing you all...
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
in the process of building a brand new school in Abergavenny, on the sports fields of the existing secondary ...for 4 - 18yr olds :oops: .... some nice juicy primary school sites to offset some of the cost for sure.... Not due to open 'fore next year though :rolleyes: and presume that they will be demolishing the existing buildings one of which was built 50 years ago the other 70 years ago ... both falling apart, the older one, when I was being taught in it .. the newer one was simply thrown up and regularly had windows fall out or blow in in high winds .. totally Jerry built ... leaked like a seive, both rain and wind .. from day one
 
JD450A

JD450A

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Plenty of lead about, plenty of A/C mains too.... I'd not worry, forever chemicals are what will be the deaths of us all.

As for this being some big issue.... Its a excuse for the reality which is crappy maintenance.... It'll never come to light but I'd suspect many of these concrete structures have never had any refits or repairs. Probably have been washed with reactive or corrosive substances and are degrading due to it.

Infrastructure in the UK is well f***ed.....
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

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Not that bothered what the water main is here. Been on bottled water for months after wife had seen some research regarding aluminum accumulation in the brain and links to various issues. Apparently the answer is Volvic.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Seen this in news ...temp classrooms in Bradford apparently...a kid with a lump hammer could have a laugh on the bottom corner
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