RAAC concrete - tip of the iceberg.

[Giles]

But where do you draw the line at it degrading and causing poloution. It's an absolute nightmare to deal with asbestos contaminated soil as it's supposed to be so bad for the soil

How? It’s a natural mineral mined from the earth.

On the brake factory where they used to have open bays of it and the lads would have snow ball fights with it etc. When they converted some of it to housing they turned the top 5m over and burried it that was the solution then piled the foundations. Had big 50 toners digging clay out and burying it.

It’s not chemical you just need to avoid the fibres becoming air borne.

 

[Giles]

Seen this in news ...temp classrooms in Bradford apparently...a kid with a lump hammer could have a laugh on the bottom corner
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Should be at least concrete pad and column

 

[Giles]

Not that bothered what the water main is here. Been on bottled water for months after wife had seen some research regarding aluminum accumulation in the brain and links to various issues. Apparently the answer is Volvic.

You are going to drink French water the rest of your life? Not Buxton? Or Scottish?

 

[Smiffy]

How? It’s a natural mineral mined from the earth.

On the brake factory where they used to have open bays of it and the lads would have snow ball fights with it etc. When they converted some of it to housing they turned the top 5m over and burried it that was the solution then piled the foundations. Had big 50 toners digging clay out and burying it.

It’s not chemical you just need to avoid the fibres becoming air borne.

This is my thoughts but they are worried about it leeching into watercourses it would seem. I dug up some contaminated hardcore 3 weeks ago. Still sat in a pile on the side of the road as noone will collect it

 

[kabin man]

You are going to drink French water the rest of your life? Not Buxton? Or Scottish?

I've been drinking Romanian water...
Just thought, its just about same price as petrol. HOW? Half way up a mountain and stick it in a bottle v's drilling platform,supertankers,refinery,transport etc... Surprised BP and others are not buying up the water before petrol disappears..

 

[Storrsy]

Not that bothered what the water main is here. Been on bottled water for months after wife had seen some research regarding aluminum accumulation in the brain and links to various issues. Apparently the answer is Volvic.

Probably come out that bottled water contains micro plastics leaching out from the bottle you can't win. My parents water supply comes straight out the hillside. No UV filtration or anything- lovely water and as far as I'm aware not done anyone any harm in the 400 years the property has been lived in.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Probably come out that bottled water contains micro plastics leaching out from the bottle you can't win. My parents water supply comes straight out the hillside. No UV filtration or anything- lovely water and as far as I'm aware not done anyone any harm in the 400 years the property has been lived in.

Just get a filter tap FFS bottled water must be biggest waste of resource etc etc...does my nut in and I'm no eco warrior

 

[Giles]

Just get a filter tap FFS bottled water must be biggest waste of resource etc etc...does my nut in and I'm no eco warrior

Hahaha

 

[Giles]

This is my thoughts but they are worried about it leeching into watercourses it would seem. I dug up some contaminated hardcore 3 weeks ago. Still sat in a pile on the side of the road as noone will collect it

Again it’s only hazardous as a dry powder/dust so it’s taken into the lungs and the little fish hook shaped fibres catch on the alveoli in the lungs

 

[V8Druid]

Probably come out that bottled water contains micro plastics leaching out from the bottle you can't win. My parents water supply comes straight out the hillside. No UV filtration or anything- lovely water and as far as I'm aware not done anyone any harm in the 400 years the property has been lived in.

much like the .. all the oestrogen in waste water is turning all the fish female story
we're spring too .. two x 1 micron fliters and UV .. use a Britta jug to fill kettle to reduce scale .. still have to wash it weekly as turns green quietly ... our fish pond pump, which is fed from unfiltered spring water always has loads of leaches in it when I clean it out ... can't be too bad if they can live and thrive in it

 

[Storrsy]

Again it’s only hazardous as a dry powder/dust so it’s taken into the lungs and the little fish hook shaped fibres catch on the alveoli in the lungs

That's my understanding of it. Somewhat similar to sillica dust. It's more the problem that the lungs can't clear it and becomes scar tissue. The lungs are actually remarkedly effective at cleaning themselves but I think like everything it's amount of exposure that overwhelms them.

 

[kabin man]

Seen this in news ...temp classrooms in Bradford apparently...a kid with a lump hammer could have a laugh on the bottom corner
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its in the Guardian this morning..F IN HELL thats as dangerous as the building its replacing..
Nearly every school job im involved in atm has building control involved.And they're not shy..

 

[craig]

They don't look like they've used stacking pins either

 

[Giles]

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its in the Guardian this morning..F IN HELL thats as dangerous as the building its replacing..
Nearly every school job im involved in atm has building control involved.And they're not shy..

Isn’t that just a stock image of a site office etc can’t see them letting kids on those steps

 

[V8Druid]

Isn’t that just a stock image of a site office etc can’t see them letting kids on those steps

thought exactly the same about the steps .... and look what they're sat on FFS

Seen this in news ...temp classrooms in Bradford apparently...a kid with a lump hammer could have a laugh on the bottom corner
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[Lancs Lad]

Isn’t that just a stock image of a site office etc can’t see them letting kids on those steps

I agree deffo not a classroom despite media desperately trying to get some images to show how major this is ...I mean FFS some HSE meeting has flagged it up ... decision made crack on. Not end of world FFS....I'm.sure they waited till last week of holidays then decided to announce it...FFS stop turning every single thing into a political battle. Seriously ..or does it deflect attention from ulez clusterfk?

 

[V8Druid]

I agree deffo not a classroom despite media desperately trying to get some images to show how major this is ...I mean FFS some HSE meeting has flagged it up ... decision made crack on. Not end of world FFS....I'm.sure they waited till last week of holidays then decided to announce it...FFS stop turning every single thing into a political battle. Seriously ..or does it deflect attention from ulez clusterfk?

could be a case of " beggars can't be choosers " ... 's whatever's available - in a hurry ...... used to do lot of crane hire to a company who did temporary/portacabin classrooms ... was usually a 6-8 week lead time between build and delivery/placement ... always booked a crane at least a month in advance

 

[craig]

On a more positive note, we collected some stuff this week, that had been on hire while they done remedial works on raac concrete in a school. They had finished and wanted collection before the new term.
The stuff had been out for a good few months, so maybe it`s not a last minute as the media is making out?

 

[Giles]

They wouldn’t use the steel ones it’d be standard office ones and laid out on car park / yard etc etc can’t get 30 kids in one of those. Just a stock image photo editor pulled off some agency

 

[6feetdown]

I agree deffo not a classroom despite media desperately trying to get some images to show how major this is ...I mean FFS some HSE meeting has flagged it up ... decision made crack on. Not end of world FFS....I'm.sure they waited till last week of holidays then decided to announce it...FFS stop turning every single thing into a political battle. Seriously ..or does it deflect attention from ulez clusterfk?

Always smoke and mirrors