Check your CSCS card - it might be back to school time!

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Brendan

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kabin man said:
Yayy more training.!

https://www.theconstructionindex.co...ways-instructs-contractors-to-get-new-diploma

National Highways sees integrated project delivery (IPD) as central to maximising efficiency in road building projects and is about to embed it in its procurement.

It defines IPD as “a collaborative and coordinated project delivery method that emphasises integrated working among all project stakeholders”.

“By requiring our third-party suppliers to be trained in IPD, we are promoting a culture of continuous improvement and quality focus. IPD builds a proactive approach to risk management, with all stakeholders working collaboratively to find and mitigate risks throughout the project lifecycle. Additionally, IPD encourages the use of advanced technology and tools for effective communication, coordination, and documentation, leading to better project documentation and accountability.

And clear as mudd without corperate buzz words too.. :rolleyes:
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Probably a shitty course/jolly and a backhander so all the contracts managers so they can all sit in a circle and jerk each other off.
Reads like someone is trying to justify the expense for online reporting systems for daily tasks, schedules and reporting of works completed plus moving accountability onto the end user.
No actual advanced tools for actually working
 
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Smiffy

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That just sounds like BIM which is being made compulsory on large projects anyway
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
sooner or later all these tw*ts're gonna run out of ppl willing to jump the hoops and won't have anyone to actually do the work ..... simple as :mad::mad:
 
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Smiffy

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V8Druid said:
sooner or later all these tw*ts're gonna run out of ppl willing to jump the hoops and won't have anyone to actually do the work ..... simple as :mad::mad:
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Problem is they have friends in very high places and the likes of BIM has been written into law. I can't remember if it's this year or 2025 it becomes compulsory
 
kabin man

kabin man

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Talha Riaz said:
Unfortunately, just having a green CSCS card may not be enough to work as a plasterer. It's possible that you need additional qualifications or skills specific to that trade. Your best bet is to check with your employer or the construction site to see what's required for the job.
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Hello again..
Hows it going? I have some questions on cscs cards. Could you assist?
 
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Smiffy

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Im Thinking about moving up to Herefordshire next year so thought I should probably get a CSCS so I can find a wider range of employment. Having a look and it seems for the most basic nvq it's 550 plus vat.
With some of them going up to a grand.
How can it possibly be so much given that there is absolutely no training involved.
I then started looking at getting a white CSCS card as I have nearly completed an HNC in civil engineering. Seems I have to do an extended health safety and environment test and if I don't get it done by June 27th they are moving the goal posts to include questions about mental health and a whole load of other stuff completely un related to playing in the mud.

All I want to do is dig holes!!!! How the fu** is anyone actually meant to get on in this country
 
Bob

Bob

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Smiffy said:
Im Thinking about moving up to Herefordshire next year so thought I should probably get a CSCS so I can find a wider range of employment. Having a look and it seems for the most basic nvq it's 550 plus vat.
With some of them going up to a grand.
How can it possibly be so much given that there is absolutely no training involved.
I then started looking at getting a white CSCS card as I have nearly completed an HNC in civil engineering. Seems I have to do an extended health safety and environment test and if I don't get it done by June 27th they are moving the goal posts to include questions about mental health and a whole load of other stuff completely un related to playing in the mud.

All I want to do is dig holes!!!! How the fu** is anyone actually meant to get on in this country
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If you wait a few weeks gender will be on the health part ,if you get that in the wrong hole you will be in the s**t
 
kabin man

kabin man

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Bob said:
If you wait a few weeks gender will be on the health part ,if you get that in the wrong hole you will be in the s**t
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Gunners

Gunners

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Let them write their reports, analyse their findings, think tank the solutions, build a framework for implementing their solutions, lobby for funding and whatever else it takes to beat around the bush without actually putting people into job roles. They will turn up to the station 10 years too late to find either the problem has been solved once again by migration (as it was with the polish etc 15 years ago) or the country goes into a massive recession and we don't need things building anyway.
I do feel some sympathy for the industry bodies, its not all their fault. Kids of my generation were pushed heavily into university with trades and apprentices left to fail. It was happening long before the Blair government too - there's not one person to blame as such, just how its gone.

What I do level at the industry bodies is their lack of foresight on this, and a systematic approach of squandering the funding they have been given, to bolster their own pockets and agendas. The CITB training college was a great idea - these do still exist but you never hear about them - poor marketing??
Short term goals have been achieved at the sacrifice of a longer term strategy to upskill the workforce and attract new talent.
And no report, framework or think tank is going to solve it in the short to medium term - we have gone past that point now sadly.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Gunners said:
Let them write their reports, analyse their findings, think tank the solutions, build a framework for implementing their solutions, lobby for funding and whatever else it takes to beat around the bush without actually putting people into job roles. They will turn up to the station 10 years too late to find either the problem has been solved once again by migration (as it was with the polish etc 15 years ago) or the country goes into a massive recession and we don't need things building anyway.
I do feel some sympathy for the industry bodies, its not all their fault. Kids of my generation were pushed heavily into university with trades and apprentices left to fail. It was happening long before the Blair government too - there's not one person to blame as such, just how its gone.

What I do level at the industry bodies is their lack of foresight on this, and a systematic approach of squandering the funding they have been given, to bolster their own pockets and agendas. The CITB training college was a great idea - these do still exist but you never hear about them - poor marketing??
Short term goals have been achieved at the sacrifice of a longer term strategy to upskill the workforce and attract new talent.
And no report, framework or think tank is going to solve it in the short to medium term - we have gone past that point now sadly.
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bang on Ollie (y)
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
JerryRtilt

JerryRtilt

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V8Druid said:
Another layer of sh1t, in disguise
https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/citb-rolls-out-plant-training-reforms

" The first phase of the changes will see new standards introduced for:
  • 360o tracked excavators above 10 tonnes
  • forward tipping wheeled dumpers
  • rear tipping dumper/dump trucks: articulated chassis (all sizes)
  • ride-on rollers
  • telescopic handler: all sizes excluding 360 o slew
  • industrial forklifts
  • plant and vehicle marshallers
  • slingers and signallers. "
Kerching :mad:
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Agreed Kerching. And how the f… are Telescopic handlers all sizes and 360 slew all lumped in one category when some of them are the size of a small crane now when dumpers and excavators are split into different categories, or am I missing something.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
JerryRtilt said:
Agreed Kerching. And how the f… are Telescopic handlers all sizes and 360 slew all lumped in one category when some of them are the size of a small crane now when dumpers and excavators are split into different categories, or am I missing something.
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pure money making exercise .. end of :mad:
 
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Bri963

Bri963

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JerryRtilt said:
Agreed Kerching. And how the f… are Telescopic handlers all sizes and 360 slew all lumped in one category when some of them are the size of a small crane now when dumpers and excavators are split into different categories, or am I missing something.
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It excludes 360 slew machines. As for the rest, 2 tonne or 12 tonne lift they all need the same skill set/level.
 
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