Check your CSCS card - it might be back to school time!

[Smiffy]

Exactly. Training should be affordable not an excuse to make loads of money off the back of a few quangos

What pisses me of more is that we are expected to pay for pointless bits of paper to tell us we are infact qualified to do the work we have already been doing whilst everyone looks straight past this and starts campaigning for free uni fees so that zee zay zem can do gender studies for free

 

[6feetdown]

What pisses me of more is that we are expected to pay for pointless bits of paper to tell us we are infact qualified to do the work we have already been doing whilst everyone looks straight past this and starts campaigning for free uni fees so that zee zay zem can do gender studies for free

Yeah all the bs that gets paid for and then when proper training is req have to pay silly money to achieve it.

Last 1 I did passport to safety 2 day course could have done in 1 if they stopped all the comfort breaks and late start early finish

 

[Smiffy]

Yeah all the bs that gets paid for and then when proper training is req have to pay silly money to achieve it.

Last 1 I did passport to safety 2 day course could have done in 1 if they stopped all the comfort breaks and late start early finish

I've done loads of different ones. Covering all sorts of stuff and by far the worst is cpc. I spent 7hrs in a classroom being told to look out for cyclists. Also been told that ratchet straps are unsuitable for anything metal including all plant. It wouldn't be quite so bad if any of it where educational.
The best by far I've had is a hiab experienced opp ticket. The bloke said what's the point in doing the practical as we would all go out do the right thing then Monday morning return to doing whatever we like.

 

[Mick-the-fitter]

Imagine if these CSCS carded people turned up on sites and were told, “Sorry mate come back in 10 years with experience, like all the other lads on site, that don’t have CSCS but are very good at their jobs”.

 

[DaveDCB]

Imagine if these CSCS carded people turned up on sites and were told, “Sorry mate come back in 10 years with experience, like all the other lads on site, that don’t have CSCS but are very good at their jobs”.

It’s always been a difficult one, need experience for the job, can’t get a job without experience! A lot of the jobs I’ve done over the years I’ve often thought to myself, ‘Christ id hate for someone fresh out of the blocks to be doing this, it would of been damn right dangerous!’
M1 motorway, bridge works - we need you to sit up top on live lane with no barriers(between edge and machine) , boom right over and under the deck to bend the rebar back over , 3cx across carriage, not gonna lie i fecking shat myself , one wrong pull of the lever I’d of pulled the machine straight off the top into 5 lifts of scaffolding below!

 

[Charlie]

My boiler chap rang me up 6 months back and asked if he could use my boiler (oil) installation as his re-certification inspection installation (or whatever you call it)! Anyway, he's a top bloke, the best installer I've ever known and has a ticket for pretty much any boiler. I said yes straight away and he and the inspector were welcome any time, don't need me there as it's in an out building. He is on the phone a few weeks later, failed the inspection as I had put a shed and a greenhouse within 2m of the tank. He only passed as by chance I found a drone photo from when the tank was installed showing nothing around it. It was up to me to prove the boiler was installed to regs to the inspector (he had contacted me directly) along with signed statements or he wouldn't of got his ticket back! Mad!

 

[sfrs4]

Who runs these courses? There are probably plenty of people on here with more experience and knowledge, that could set up courses online and for half the price, where would the punters rather go!

There is the largest problem with the industry, people with no knowledge of the job you do but a couple of business certificates from Uni, decide to set up a company to "watch over you and your safety and provide training and certification"
they then "train" someone to do this who has probably never even seen the job you do, and tell them once trained their word is better than god's.
Case proven some years ago, Myself and 5 others had to go on a fall arrest course, so harness training etc and part of this was one of those fall arrest inertia reels with the steel cables and this bloke was telling us how to check to make sure it was safe to use, " hands up who knows how to check it " up my hand goes, visual check of the cable while pulled out I said, "nope" he says "you pull it out and run your hands down it" at this point I got up and asked to speak to the owner of the company! when he appeared he asked what the problem was, even when I told him he couldn't see an issue. So me and 12 people left the course there and then, the company we were due to work for and had told us this course was "mandatory" was told politely to find someone else or find a company capable of giving a safe course.

 

[V8Druid]

There is the largest problem with the industry, people with no knowledge of the job you do but a couple of business certificates from Uni, decide to set up a company to "watch over you and your safety and provide training and certification"
they then "train" someone to do this who has probably never even seen the job you do, and tell them once trained their word is better than god's.
Case proven some years ago, Myself and 5 others had to go on a fall arrest course, so harness training etc and part of this was one of those fall arrest inertia reels with the steel cables and this bloke was telling us how to check to make sure it was safe to use, " hands up who knows how to check it " up my hand goes, visual check of the cable while pulled out I said, "nope" he says "you pull it out and run your hands down it" at this point I got up and asked to speak to the owner of the company! when he appeared he asked what the problem was, even when I told him he couldn't see an issue. So me and 12 people left the course there and then, the company we were due to work for and had told us this course was "mandatory" was told politely to find someone else or find a company capable of giving a safe course.

unfknbelievable ..... should have found the guy a rough old 'raggy' line and asked him for a demo

 

[jimbo]

Imagine if these CSCS carded people turned up on sites and were told, “Sorry mate come back in 10 years with experience, like all the other lads on site, that don’t have CSCS but are very good at their jobs”.

That's what happened to a brickie I I had last year, he laid 4 bricks to my 17 and I had to take most of his work down because it was leaning out 30mm per metre. Best brickie I know doesn't have a card either

 

[6feetdown]

That's what happened to a brickie I I had last year, he laid 4 bricks to my 17 and I had to take most of his work down because it was leaning out 30mm per metre. Best brickie I know doesn't have a card either

He'd be good on a battered retaining wall lol

 

[V8Druid]

He'd be good on a battered retaining wall lol

as long as it was leaning the right way

 

[6feetdown]

as long as it was leaning the right way

Have to have him working 1 way

 

[kabin man]

So ive been booked on a 3 day IOSH course...
Won't be complaining like i used to as firm are paying..
Im told its a days worth stretched out a bit,but im being paid to do it for a change so lets sit in the warm..

 

[Talha Riaz]

"Of course not! It's as simple as knowing that a banana is a fruit and not a vegetable. If a site manager can't tell the difference between a competent worker and a dancing banana, then they might need some extra help."

 

[Talha Riaz]

Unfortunately, just having a green CSCS card may not be enough to work as a plasterer. It's possible that you need additional qualifications or skills specific to that trade. Your best bet is to check with your employer or the construction site to see what's required for the job.

 

[Bri963]

"Of course not! It's as simple as knowing that a banana is a fruit and not a vegetable. If a site manager can't tell the difference between a competent worker and a dancing banana, then they might need some extra help."

Hello Talha, and welcome to the forum. I can see from your first post that you’re going to be a fountain of wit and knowledge, and look forward to your future contributions with eager anticipation. What is Your involvement with machinery?

 

[kabin man]

Hello Talha, and welcome to the forum. I can see from your first post that you’re going to be a fountain of wit and knowledge, and look forward to your future contributions with eager anticipation. What is Your involvement with machinery?

Just to add some context..
Worked for a fencing contractor for a while a few yrs back.They won a large contract at a Large docks.
The client insisted on trained operatives only so the whole lot of us did a course to put on our cscs card.(FISS) i believe.
We did a one day training for this.(On the 2nd floor of a office building).
We came away with a cscs card qualification and all was tickety-boo after. We were £350 lighter in the pocket,but fully trained.
'Experts' know best.

 

[kabin man]

After extensive consultation and discussions between various experts on this platform we are proud to share the data
in the way of a simple yet effective chart.

 

[kabin man]

Hello Talha, and welcome to the forum. I can see from your first post that you’re going to be a fountain of wit and knowledge, and look forward to your future contributions with eager anticipation. What is Your involvement with machinery?

Hi New member.same question here. please give us some background on what you do. Are you an operator or an allied trade?
As this is a thread on training,please let us know of your training achieved/money spent and your opinion as to weather its money well spent etc..
Genuine question, other threads are available.

 

[kabin man]

Yayy more training.!

https://www.theconstructionindex.co...ways-instructs-contractors-to-get-new-diploma

National Highways sees integrated project delivery (IPD) as central to maximising efficiency in road building projects and is about to embed it in its procurement.

It defines IPD as “a collaborative and coordinated project delivery method that emphasises integrated working among all project stakeholders”.

“By requiring our third-party suppliers to be trained in IPD, we are promoting a culture of continuous improvement and quality focus. IPD builds a proactive approach to risk management, with all stakeholders working collaboratively to find and mitigate risks throughout the project lifecycle. Additionally, IPD encourages the use of advanced technology and tools for effective communication, coordination, and documentation, leading to better project documentation and accountability.

And clear as mudd without corperate buzz words too..