Has anyone one here except Gunners ...

[Storrsy]

...actually ever bought a brand new dumper.

Makes me laugh how we all (IME) buy fancy new diggers and then end up with a cranky 15 year old dumper!
Why is that I wonder. Perhaps not enough hours ever clocked up on a dumper to make it worth it? I've actually used my 2 ton dumper alot the last 18 months and now realise the new ones have a sprung seat!

 

[hiluxman]

...actually ever bought a brand new dumper.

Makes me laugh how we all (IME) buy fancy new diggers and then end up with a cranky 15 year old dumper!
Why is that I wonder. Perhaps not enough hours ever clocked up on a dumper to make it worth it? I've actually used my 2 ton dumper alot the last 18 months and now realise the new ones have a sprung seat!

Dumpers are basic things, generally with an idiot driving.

It's the only thing I have that I let anyone else drive.

New vs used. On a dumper used everytime, they are relatively bombproof and they will keep soldiering on.

A very big plant hire firm from me still has dumpers with a n registration on.

 

[DaveDCB]

Yeah I got myself a TA3SH (3ton swivel hydrostatic) brand new, on the basis I’ll keep it 15 years, will have cost me about £1200 a year after servicing and it will be worth something once I’m done with it.. I’ve had it 5 yrs now and it still looks like new, and can still probably sell it for what I paid near enough!

 

[Storrsy]

Yeah I got myself a TA3SH (3ton swivel hydrostatic) brand new, on the basis I’ll keep it 15 years, will have cost me about £1200 a year after servicing and it will be worth something once I’m done with it.. I’ve had it 5 yrs now and it still looks like new, and can still probably sell it for what I paid near enough!

Yeah, thats kinda my thinking plus it looks respectable and you can get the spec you want. Out of interest how many hours have you put on it over the 5 years?

 

[6feetdown]

I think as dumpers were always so cheap to hire I did the math a few times and didn't see the point

 

[Storrsy]

I think as dumpers were always so cheap to hire I did the math a few times and didn't see the point

True. But I detest hiring anything. It's the hassle for me. Most of my jobs are a week or two long, some up to 6 weeks, I need a dumper as and when so there just isn't the flexibility there with hiring. Plus the last time I hired a dumper a hose burst and cost me a days work waiting for them to fix it!

 

[6feetdown]

True. But I detest hiring anything. It's the hassle for me. Most of my jobs are a week or two long, some up to 6 weeks, I need a dumper as and when so there just isn't the flexibility there with hiring. Plus the last time I hired a dumper a hose burst and cost me a days work waiting for them to fix it!

I think as well haulage plays a part, if you've got a lorry much easier to transport than with a 3.5t vehicle

 

[Gunners]

I bought a dumper that you can’t hire - there was a reasoning behind my purchase!

 

[Steve]

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I think as well haulage plays a part, if you've got a lorry much easier to transport than with a 3.5t vehicle

I am now in the process of trying to find a suitable trailer to shift my 3 tonne dumper.

 

[6feetdown]

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I am now in the process of trying to find a suitable trailer to shift my 3 tonne dumper.

 

[Storrsy]

I bought a dumper that you can’t hire - there was a reasoning behind my purchase!

Yeah get that totally. In fact having watched your video it's eloquently explains what I'm thinking.
For me the 2 ton is a real sweet spot. It can fit on the same gh1054 trailer as my digger being the same width. It will follow down the same paths which you wouldn't get a 3 ton down, and also quite nice and light for towing around the place. It also has the same thickness steel as the 3 which is handy as I load some big rocks into mine- sometimes just the 1 rock.
£19300 I've been quoted for a 2 ton straight tip. I like straight tips as slightly more capacity and easy to scrape material out of with a straight back on the skip. Interesting on your video you say about capacitys, most dumpers won't take what they claim, but on this footpath job I'm on its about 600m each way down a narrow rough path, lorry is tipping 10t loads of 803 at a time due to access at the top and I'm finding after 5 trips in the 2t dumper there is barely more than a grading bucket full at the end of it, so can't be far off capacity...

 

[Gunners]

£19300 I've been quoted for a 2 ton straight tip.

Thats not bad at all if thats for a hydrostatic. I was told Thwaites are not doing manual machines going forward to streamline production - but of course that will put costs up for new machines.
I was quoted £14k for a 2t straight tip manual and £17293 for a 2t straight tip hydrostatic back in April 2020. If its a hydrostatic you've been quoted on, I thought they would have gone up by more than that the last 3 years.
No doubt the best of the 2t dumpers though. The Terex skip design at this size is aweful!

 

[doobin]

I bought a dumper that you can’t hire - there was a reasoning behind my purchase!

Same. Tracked dumper.

What pisses me off is that there is fk all engineering on a new dumper compared to a new mini digger yet almost the same money!!!

 

[Grahams]

Have you thought about a mini loader? There is a lot of flexibility and are self loading. With all the attachments you will get a lot more use out of it than a small dumper. Downside is they only really carry about 1t.

 

[Storrsy]

Same. Tracked dumper.

What pisses me off is that there is fk all engineering on a new dumper compared to a new mini digger yet almost the same money!!!

Yeah their R&D teams must be non existent, don't think there has been any groundbreaking advances in dumpership in the last 20 years!

 

[Storrsy]

Got to move these this morning- there is a place for an old dumper it has to be said!

 

[Smiffy]

Yeah their R&D teams must be non existent, don't think there has been any groundbreaking advances in dumpership in the last 20 years!

Yes there has!!! The seats now turn round !!!!!

 

[pettsy]

Yeah their R&D teams must be non existent, don't think there has been any groundbreaking advances in dumpership in the last 20 years!

What can we do that’s new…put a cab on and bright yellow grab handles

 

[Left hooker]

Don't own any always hire as never know what size you need till the job comes in
With the tilty on 5t and the 18t 360s I only prefer straight tip theses days as you can clean out with bucket better than a swivel with curved sides

Had this on hire other day and after driving a raft of new dumpers I prefer this any day over the horn beeping every move , engines with no poke ,won't tip it's full contents out on the flat and level modern crap

2007 still going strong and probably best 6t you could ever get in my eyes
Starting to detest the new stuff
Only other dumper I like is the 9/10t neuson straight tip with or without cab

 

[Hg2702]

We always hire a thwaites 1.5 ton swivel skip absolute perfect match with a 2 ton digger ! Even had a swivel high lift the other week turns out it’s a 1ft wider and didn’t fit my trailer