Whites quick hitches and buckets

[Shovelhands]

There’s more to bucket geometry than just the hitch, it plays a big part, but a badly designed bucket can ruin the best of hitches.

 

[Furniss]

Let alone the build height advantage. I do wonder if part of the reason the Whites hitches I have experience with suffer from too small dipper width on the buckets. Kubotas always seem very narrow on their buckets for some reason. The S type, even the smallest size, always seem to have a nice wide yoke and this helps a lot to reduce the effects of play

Not sure what models your referring to but Kubota KX61/71 is same dipper width as JCB 802 series - and KX and U17 range is same as JCB 801
so I think KX27/U27 will prob be same dims, also I think JCB new 1.5t range still on same dims ?

 

[Gunners]

Not sure what models your referring to but Kubota KX61/71 is same dipper width as JCB 802 series - and KX and U17 range is same as JCB 801
so I think KX27/U27 will prob be same dims, also I think JCB new 1.5t range still on same dims ?

I cant find a picture of it, but pretty sure with most of the whites hitches I've used, the bucket ear to ear measurement isn't as wide as the actual machine itself. So if you wanted to direct mount it, you couldn't. All the JCB stuff I've got would fit under the hitch or direct mount, and the extra width really helps reduce play.

Edit - found a pic of what I mean. Bucket looks narrower than the dipper? I have a video of this machine. 300hr U17 with inches of play in the bucket.

 

[Nick...]

I cant find a picture of it, but pretty sure with most of the whites hitches I've used, the bucket ear to ear measurement isn't as wide as the actual machine itself. So if you wanted to direct mount it, you couldn't. All the JCB stuff I've got would fit under the hitch or direct mount, and the extra width really helps reduce play.

Edit - found a pic of what I mean. Bucket looks narrower than the dipper? I have a video of this machine. 300hr U17 with inches of play in the bucket.

That’s just ridiculous
nick...

 

[diggerjones]

Like Nick says, thats mad. I wouldn't be buying one anytime soon

 

[hiluxman]

I recon it might fit on. Just look at the gaping casum on the dipper to the hitch.

If you eye down the actual dipper to bucket it doesn't look far off...but I'm only looking on my phone so might not be as good as those looking on a pc.

Also the hire firm may have had a mix and match hitch done??

 

[T whiting]

Yes often all the buckets are the same no matter what machine there on it saves swapping heads on hammers and other attachments.

I didn't think that JCB/Kubota were the same I thought the distance between the ears was a bit tighter by a couple of mm on one of them

 

[Furniss]

Yes often all the buckets are the same no matter what machine there on it saves swapping heads on hammers and other attachments.

I didn't think that JCB/Kubota were the same I thought the distance between the ears was a bit tighter by a couple of mm on one of them

Im pretty sure only the the Pin centers vary between KX71 etc and JCB 802 series and by 5mm - dipper width and pin diameter the same.

 

[Furniss]

I cant find a picture of it, but pretty sure with most of the whites hitches I've used, the bucket ear to ear measurement isn't as wide as the actual machine itself. So if you wanted to direct mount it, you couldn't. All the JCB stuff I've got would fit under the hitch or direct mount, and the extra width really helps reduce play.

Edit - found a pic of what I mean. Bucket looks narrower than the dipper? I have a video of this machine. 300hr U17 with inches of play in the bucket.

If thats right its an odd one ........you can pin whites buckets straight to onto my - u17.

 

[doobin]

What I like about Whites is that a mix and match hydraulic hitch for mini diggers was no problem for them- many companies wouldn't be interested. Shame they have both had problems as above,

 

[Sloany]

If thats right its an odd one ........you can pin whites buckets straight to onto my - u17.

Same for my U10 & U27, the Whites buckets go straight on.

 

[Jimoz]

My mates machine which I hire occasionally has a whites spring hitch. Couldn't rate it because operator skills would be to blame

My whites spring hitch has been ok, the retaining pin can be a pain if stones get in, but it's not a huge issue.
Their buckets on the other hand seem ok, well built weight not too bad.

Geometry is horrendous not sure if it's the hitch, the buckets or combination of both, really struggle to cut a clean vertical edge, although could just be me but even at around 1m deep or less no matter if I move the machine forward or back the rear of the bucket will catch before the digging edge.

The lever bar is a bit lacking compared to others I have seen although could just be a poverty spec supplied by the dealer it's literally a straight round bar with a circlip, not bothered about it not having a crappy plastic handle but if it had a thicker piece of metal rather than the circlip it could probably be mounted somewhere with the risk of it sliding out

He's cut his bar down in length so it sits behind the pedals. Quite a handy spot.

 

[Furniss]

My mates machine which I hire occasionally has a whites spring hitch. Couldn't rate it because operator skills would be to blame


He's cut his bar down in length so it sits behind the pedals. Quite a handy spot.

Likewise

 

[Smiffy]

What bar is everyone on about
I thought whites hitches came with a bent peice of rebar

And whilst whites spring hitches come with wear built in are any other manual hitches any better

I'm sure if someone actually sat down and thought about it, you could make a manual hitch adjustable for slack but openable with a bar
I was told
Hire company's don't like wedge locks due to the ratchets being lost to easily

 

[Furniss]

What bar is everyone on about
I thought whites hitches came with a bent peice of rebar

And whilst whites spring hitches come with wear built in are any other manual hitches any better

I'm sure if someone actually sat down and thought about it, you could make a manual hitch adjustable for slack but openable with a bar
I was told
Hire company's don't like wedge locks due to the ratchets being lost to easily

I have a JCB hitch on my 3t and its 3500hrs and hardly any wear.
I sent a vid of a comparision between the 2 hitches to our industry insider this afternoon

 

[Gunners]

I have a JCB hitch on my 3t and its 3500hrs and hardly any wear.
I sent a vid of a comparision between the 2 hitches to our industry insider this afternoon

Some shocking footage I must say.
JCB hitches stand the test of time, currently they are at the top of the list for spring hitches. Who else has a contender?

 

[Shovelhands]

Some shocking footage I must say.
JCB hitches stand the test of time, currently they are at the top of the list for spring hitches. Who else has a contender?

Who’d have thought it....

 

[hiluxman]

Some shocking footage I must say.
JCB hitches stand the test of time, currently they are at the top of the list for spring hitches. Who else has a contender?

I already gave my suggestion earlier .

Don't have any videos tho as they are both long gone.

 

[Brendan]

What bar is everyone on about
I thought whites hitches came with a bent peice of rebar

And whilst whites spring hitches come with wear built in are any other manual hitches any better

I'm sure if someone actually sat down and thought about it, you could make a manual hitch adjustable for slack but openable with a bar
I was told
Hire company's don't like wedge locks due to the ratchets being lost to easily

Not the best pic but couldn't get at it (didn't realise the skips were full of water till moved them earlier ), mine is just a straight bar with a circlip near the end, although don't know why they bothered going to the effort of fitting it, as it doesn't even go deep enough into the hitch to touch the circlip
The rhinox one is alot easier to mount somewhere.
Not really anywhere to put mine on the micro, suppose I could cut it down and put it in the manual holder.
Have seen a bobcat with similar one to the rhinox mounted boom side of hammer pedal and the tb210r I had a look at 3 years ago had it fixed to the side of the boom.

I'm sure the u17 I was on end of last year had a whites manual spring hitch that machine has had a hard life so every. Bucket was "self levelling"

 

[OBL]

I have a mixture of Whites buckets and Rhinox buckets that came with my E19 on a Rhinox spring hitch...
You think the Whites is bad?
The Rhinox is absolutely appalling for slop...
At 160 hours I couldn’t try and sell it on eBay without saying it was badly worn.
Joke!