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6feetdown
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But that to me is the end of any chink of freedom that van arrived like the SS or StasiI'm waiting for the inevitable larger loading shovel
Storrsy
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But it's tricky isn't it. What form of protesting should be allowed and what not. I think we all agree the extinction rebellion lot sitting on the road could do with a dose of a loading shovel too. But then if farmers blocked roads with tractors should it be allowed even if their cause is entirely justified for doing so in our eyes. Personally I don't think anyone should be allowed to block roads end of. There has to be a better way to protest without causing a complete nuisance to everyday road users... I think that should apply to cyclists too for what it's worth
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Smiffy
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But it's tricky isn't it. What form of protesting should be allowed and what not. I think we all agree the extinction rebellion lot sitting on the road could do with a dose of a loading shovel too. But then if farmers blocked roads with tractors should it be allowed even if their cause is entirely justified for doing so in our eyes. Personally I don't think anyone should be allowed to block roads end of. There has to be a better way to protest without causing a complete nuisance to everyday road users... I think that should apply to cyclists too for what it's worth
Shouldn't block roads but blocking parliament, MPs front doors anything relating to MPs should be fine.
I have absolutely no problem with the stop oil protestors chaining themselves to the houses of parliament. It's blocking everyday people trying to make a living.
Some of the Dutch farmer protests are class. I saw them feeding election pamphlets into a forager and spraying it over the local MPs house. This is completely acceptable as it is targeting the person they are angry with.
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
I think the whole point of law in democratic societies is that it is applied equally with no favourites being above the rules. Unfortunately it seems that this is no longer the case and it is leading to very bad outcomes. Think black lives matter protests allowed to go ahead unhindered, but individual walkers being harrassed by police with drones etc. It can only end badly. The police in this country work by consent and this is going to evaporate if they are not careful.
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6feetdown
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I've said this all along bring parliament and any government departments to a stop and see how quickly things get done
Storrsy
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I doubt it would make any difference, only the means to remove the blockage in whatever form that takes would be more militant.
Lancs Lad
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
sounds pretty spot on .......
" What we are witnessing is the deliberate destruction of small businesses, standards of living and civil liberties to be replaced with digital IDs, QR code health passports, central bank digital currencies & smart cities. Our freedom is being replaced by their control. "
" What we are witnessing is the deliberate destruction of small businesses, standards of living and civil liberties to be replaced with digital IDs, QR code health passports, central bank digital currencies & smart cities. Our freedom is being replaced by their control. "
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
New banking 'codes of practice' coming in early next year limiting YOUR access to YOUR money ... PO is Bank of Ireland
Pam's B/F is / has been in banking 30 odd years and I need a looooong conversation with her to suss all the new sh1t, that she started to tell us about the other night
As has been said by many elsewhere, cash is on life support and control is the name of the game
for a long time, if you try to take out / pay in over £3k they want the ins and outs of a ducks ar*e / you get the third degree over it
Pam's B/F is / has been in banking 30 odd years and I need a looooong conversation with her to suss all the new sh1t, that she started to tell us about the other night
As has been said by many elsewhere, cash is on life support and control is the name of the game
for a long time, if you try to take out / pay in over £3k they want the ins and outs of a ducks ar*e / you get the third degree over it
Shovelhands
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If that was my bank, I’m afraid my last transaction with them would be pulling everything out! Simply out of principal.
Lancs Lad
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Interesting. Girl in the office was moaning it was a pain to pay in at PO will ask what the limit is for company. Pretty obvious what's going on.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
man after my own heart .... however, I understand that this is about to become the norm ..... and there are only so many places one can 'park' it other than a very secure tin boxthe other thing I forgot to say about the £3k bit above, is if you're paying that level, or above in, ALL banks automatically report the transaction details to HMRC .. no iffs, but, maybe,s .. they are legally obliged - end of.
Lancs Lad
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Yeah get the guy playing the old vat and cash fiddle but ignore the fekkers at the top
the other thing I forgot to say about the £3k bit above, is if you're paying that level, or above in, ALL banks automatically report the transaction details to HMRC .. no iffs, but, maybe,s .. they are legally obliged - end of.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
banking is about to undergo massive changes apparently (we all know where that's headed) HSBC where Jill (Pam's mate) works is about to close 130 branches ... Aber is the second busiest in S Wales, so it's sweet FA to do with viability.
Bob
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Its been £2000 cash as payment at most Building merchants for several years now or so I once found
Bob
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They told me it was money laundry but it could of been what you said
Lancs Lad
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Be 1% before long so not much less than a card machine but with all the hassle...expect less and less places to take it .
Shovelhands
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We must NOT loose the ability to use cash. It would be a disaster.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
we already have a 'black economy' ... it'll end up as a major player, with nigh on a two tier economy the way it's going
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