U27 vs KX27

Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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You’d not get the oil flow for a flail through a tilty on this size machine so would limit its usefulness a bit, would also probably be a bit on the heavy/noddy side I’d think.
I would give very serious thought to the Kubota with the arse and the new Cat if I was in the market today - my Bobcat is great and has been reliable etc for the 4 years I’ve had it but it looks like it’s been parked on a beach as the paint is so crap (and was from new). It’s enough to put me off buying another Bobcat tbh.
That kub I posted with flail has a hard life. Lives outside gets treated like crap...I do what I can when I have it but I still reckon with a quick powerwash it would look like a new machine and its at least 6 years old.
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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That kub I posted with flail has a hard life. Lives outside gets treated like crap...I do what I can when I have it but I still reckon with a quick powerwash it would look like a new machine and its at least 6 years old.
I think Kubota has a reputation for a decent paint job 👍. My older Takeuchis dont have the best paint but the newer 216 is 6 years old and still looks as good as new
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Unfortunately though the cat in this size bracket is a zero or much reduced tail swing. If you want conventional tail, I think your reduced to Volvo, Kubota, bobcat, JCB and Takeuchi.
 
Furniss

Furniss

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Im going to sound like a stuck record but you just need to buy a little truck and then forget about all that overweight bollocks, mate in u.k just bought a 12t Man and loves it - carries 6t or so and he now has a 4t digger on it - 4t digger fits everywhere his 3t did but its got more of everything and the truck pulls it a doddle with no hassle of a trailer and flirting with limits.
Yes there are some hoops to jump through but well worth it.
And ....You could prob buy a 12t truck and run it for 2 years for less than the price of a pickup :)
 
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Simon edwards

Simon edwards

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Been pretty happy with my KX030, a bit heavier than the 027, still just legally towable,I think it’s 100mm wider too and very stable .I’ve mentioned before not the smoothest for fine grading but nor is our 61-3 .Ours is not the hi flow version that may make a difference.I have to say I would happily buy another ,the cab is great,very solid and reliable bit of kit.
 
Simon edwards

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Some pictures of our 030
 

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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Im going to sound like a stuck record but you just need to buy a little truck and then forget about all that overweight bollocks, mate in u.k just bought a 12t Man and loves it - carries 6t or so and he now has a 4t digger on it - 4t digger fits everywhere his 3t did but its got more of everything and the truck pulls it a doddle with no hassle of a trailer and flirting with limits.
Yes there are some hoops to jump through but well worth it.
And ....You could prob buy a 12t truck and run it for 2 years for less than the price of a pickup :)
's all the crap that comes with ownership that's the issue here though Kev :(:(
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Well I never hear of anyone selling a little truck to go back to a pickup so it must prove worth the bit of hassle no ?
agree with you ... can't beat a truck, but as said the crap that comes with it, for the relatively limited use it'd get, for the average user replacing a trailer set up is a lot of grief - O license, servicing, parking, six weeklies, etc. :(
 
Furniss

Furniss

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Average user goes out with his pickup and 3t digger to earn a living like the guy with a little truck but cant get anything else on it either space or weight wise and cant do muck away or aggregates in ( I know you can with an ifor tipper, I ran one for years but its very limited and a proper faff) and what about bloody trailer tyres , I lost count of how many I put on mine, and a pickup with 3.5t behind it is boderline safe, I had a 90 defender and they prob handle 3.5t better than a pickup but if it was greasy and you needed to stop in a rush then they werent the best of things,and towing 3.5t regularly rags the buggery out of the tow vehicle.
Its not like im saying its the best way because I did it, it makes absolutely no difference to me if someone tows their digger with a milk float, from my experience truck v pickup is a no brainer regardless of hoops.
 
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Stroppymonkey

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agree with you ... can't beat a truck, but as said the crap that comes with it, for the relatively limited use it'd get, for the average user replacing a trailer set up is a lot of grief - O license, servicing, parking, six weeklies, etc. :(
Thing about an Ifor Williams trailer, you can park it in the shed for 6 months and it doesn’t cost you anything
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Average user goes out with his pickup and 3t digger to earn a living like the guy with a little truck but cant get anything else on it either space or weight wise and cant do muck away or aggregates in ( I know you can with an ifor tipper, I ran one for years but its very limited and a proper faff) and what about bloody trailer tyres , I lost count of how many I put on mine, and a pickup with 3.5t behind it is boderline safe, I had a 90 defender and they prob handle 3.5t better than a pickup but if it was greasy and you needed to stop in a rush then they werent the best of things,and towing 3.5t regularly rags the buggery out of the tow vehicle.
Its not like im saying its the best way because I did it, it makes absolutely no difference to me if someone tows their digger with a milk float, from my experience truck v pickup is a no brainer regardless of hoops.
I'm not disagreeing with you ... truck all day long ... just the hassle involved here in UK
 
Thomas7740

Thomas7740

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Thank you for your detailed post. I am steering more towards the KX as I personally think the extra weight on arse end would certainly help keep it balanced whilst using it around my grounds.

Also the 5 Year Warranty is a deal breaker for me. Bobcat are offering 3 which, whereas the extra 2 years go along way.
Double check the warranty, when I priced kubota last time only the first year was a full warranty, only certain items covered in the later years, can’t remember full specifics though.
 
Simon edwards

Simon edwards

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I’ve toyed with buying a truck for years,have a class 2 and o license in place,but whenever I work out the costs and bullshit involved in running a little 10 or twelve tonner it just does’nt stack up for us. A shame as it would be far safer than being marginally compliant with trailers.
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Average user goes out with his pickup and 3t digger to earn a living like the guy with a little truck but cant get anything else on it either space or weight wise and cant do muck away or aggregates in ( I know you can with an ifor tipper, I ran one for years but its very limited and a proper faff) and what about bloody trailer tyres , I lost count of how many I put on mine, and a pickup with 3.5t behind it is boderline safe, I had a 90 defender and they prob handle 3.5t better than a pickup but if it was greasy and you needed to stop in a rush then they werent the best of things,and towing 3.5t regularly rags the buggery out of the tow vehicle.
Its not like im saying its the best way because I did it, it makes absolutely no difference to me if someone tows their digger with a milk float, from my experience truck v pickup is a no brainer regardless of hoops.
Certainly can't disagree with any of that ref pickup/landy and a 3.5t trailer. All a bit of a compromised setup tbh. I know if I had a truck I'd certainly not be selling my Case and would just have a little 2t to bumble around behind the disco for small jobs.
 
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