Neilporteous
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That was going to be my next question, do you loose power in the bucket with a powertilt fitted.
Neilporteous
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It looks like you gain a good 150mm - 200mm extra reach, would that be right? There must be a loss in power to the bucket but if the powertilt is always fitted then you don't have a comparison I suppose.
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GazCro
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You will without a doubt lose a lot of bucket breakout with all that extra height added in but as said its all down to intended use. If you're not on a hydraulic hitch its only 2 pins to swap hitches over or alternatively you could put pins in top of powertilt and pick it up with quick hitch but this adds even more height. From what I've seen there's scope for manufacturers to make them a bit more compact if they really tried, not a lot but could be enough for some potential buyers.
Hg2702
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I’ve had it on a pin version and it’s now hydraulic on a smaller machine I don’t see there is a great loss as it’s not like I’m breaking out great slabs of stone or anything of the likes . It’s ideal on tree stumps as you can turn in under with the ripper or in tight access I can work at 90 degrees from one spot using the tilt and boom slew where I’m unable to completely slew around. As stated it suits my needs perfectly on a small machine undertaking groundworks / landscaping / fencing and alike anything above my current size I probably wouldn’t be to fussed as a tilting bucket would suffice for me personally would love a full tilt rotate set up but the cost would be the price of a second machine which is more viable for us currently. The first picture shows my initial power tilt running with a quick hitch underneath it
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doobin
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Ok, so I reckon I'm qualified to comment here as I run one on a micro through to 2.7t!
Firstly, you will loose breakout. A hell of a lot- it's just unavoidable. Same goes for dump height, and for that reason I wouldn't entertain one on a micro except for specific jobs. Certainly not as my sole hitch on the E10. It's true that you can use the tilt to your advantage in place of breakout force for certain things like digging under large stumps sideways, but let's be honest- there's no subsititute for breakout force in a hard dig or pulling up concrete or multiple stumps.
You will gain reach, but it's unweildy reach. A slight movement on the crowd results in a large sweep of the bucket arc, and for this reason it's also a lot more hassle to load dumpers etc- position has to be spot on or you quickly run out of height or reach during the dump cycle.
Gaz has it about right in my book- use one for jobs that warrant it. For me, that's pinned on to the E10, run under the Q/H on the 1.8t (but with lightweight micro buckets) and under the q/h on the E27 but with 1.5t buckets.
I personally couldn't recommend one as a sole hitch on such a small machine, but @Hg2702 seems to get on well with it. For me, having it under the hitch on the 1.8t with micro buckets is a very good compromise indeed. Yes, there's more stack height but the Powertilt stack height is already a lump so best to suffer a little more but only for the exact job where it's required, before swapping back to bucket on Q/H/. Micro buckets are so cheap that the extra cost is negligable, and they are also fantastic for delicate work such as front garden dig outs. There's simply no need for 60+kgs of bucket hanging off the hitch when 30kgs will be plenty strong enough to dig down 150mm and also much more gentle with far better feedback where there's a risk of services. I choose a micro bucket for the 1.8t probably half the time.
You can leave the Powertilt coupled up to the micro bucket that you use most, and it's only a couple of pipes to connect once you've hitched up. If you keep pin centres the same then you could also have the option to direct mount the Powertilt for the one job in a hundred that requires tilt ability all day long for a week.
Notice how the micro boom is almost full height just with the bucket on the floor.
Hg2702
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Completely agree it’s what works best for you we were looking at a 2nd machine for anyone else / self drive and keep mine personally for me having used a tilt I wouldn’t be without it as stated for the work I do it’s perfect 
If I was spending time on and off a machine without I would probably notice a difference but I can’t really comment saying
If I was spending time on and off a machine without I would probably notice a difference but I can’t really comment sayingFooter block 1