The 'Today's Job' thread

[V8Druid]

Your just surrounded by hill farmers though. It seems to be a livestock thing to hoard crap.arable units are usually pretty clean places.
Some of the big dairy and beef units can be. But it's always the more business minded that are better. Because farms are inherited and it's a way of life you end up with far to many terrible business men running businesses

mostly dairy around us .... not much in the way of hill farming ... and're usually swimming in sh1t ... arables don't normally have 4 legged s**t factories roaming about, covering every square inch available

 

[Smiffy]

mostly dairy around us .... not much in the way of hill farming ... and're usually swimming in sh1t ... arables don't normally have 4 legged s**t factories roaming about, covering every square inch available

It's fine fine having sh1t machines wondering around if you have decent facilities. Modern sheds with slatted floors designed in a sensible manor really helps. As does concreting the yard properly. small Mismashed old buildings poorly arranged and scraped into the Lagon breed mess. But only a businessman would invest in doing it properly.

There is the question though of putting business men in charge of animal welfare. And whether it will suffer.
The fact that there is also the lack of competition for farms from new entrants due to the cost is also a problem.

In reality tax exemptions and farm payments being removed and higher food prices will be the only way to start to combat it. But I really don't agree with government medaling.

 

[V8Druid]

It's fine fine having sh1t machines wondering around if you have decent facilities. Modern sheds with slatted floors designed in a sensible manor really helps. As does concreting the yard properly. small Mismashed old buildings poorly arranged and scraped into the Lagon breed mess. But only a businessman would invest in doing it properly.
There is the question though of putting business men in charge of animal welfare. And whether it will suffer.
The fact that there is also the lack of competition for farms from new entrants due to the cost is also a problem.
In reality tax exemptions and farm payments being removed and higher food prices will be the only way to start to combat it. But I really don't agree with government medaling.

but all the exemptions, allowances, subsidies, set-asides, SFP,s, etc., etc., have to be funded and it doesn't grow on trees ...
all comes out of the treasury coffers ...
which are filled by Joe Public/the tax payer, in the first place ..
if that's not meddling don't know what is
I'm sure everyone here'd like a nice cheque twice a year for doing what they do anyway, subsidised fuel, no VED, no trailer rules (you know what I mean - there are but so what ), no rates/UBR on premises, grants ranging from 50-90% for building erections, all sorts of planning exemptions and on and on and on ................

 

[Smiffy]

but all the exemptions, allowances, subsidies, set-asides, SFP,s, etc., etc., have to be funded and it doesn't grow on trees ...
all comes out of the treasury coffers ...
which are filled by Joe Public/the tax payer, in the first place ..
if that's not meddling don't know what is
I'm sure everyone here'd like a nice cheque twice a year for doing what they do anyway, subsidised fuel, no VED, no trailer rules (you know what I mean - there are but so what ), no rates/UBR on premises, grants ranging from 50-90% for building erections, all sorts of planning exemptions and on and on and on ................

In principal, and I know it's not always perfect, the payments make no difference. Without the payments food prices would be higher so the general public would actually be worse off as we can bet the government wouldn't drop the taxes to account for the making the payments.
Yes farmers arnt poor for all the reasons we have discussed but it's hardly a profitable industry.
And the government and general public are so out of touch with agriculture which doesn't help with any policy making. The red tape seems to be a knee jerk reaction and little is done to encourage farmers to modernize.

 

[Jimoz]

Got the wife's pickup truck rear lights wired up today and wired switch up to say it's on if she forgets

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Is that an expandastore? I've got one. Not the securest of things but ok for somewhere dry and out of sight. Strong money now think I paid 2 or 300 for mine

 

[GazCro]

but all the exemptions, allowances, subsidies, set-asides, SFP,s, etc., etc., have to be funded and it doesn't grow on trees ...
all comes out of the treasury coffers ...
which are filled by Joe Public/the tax payer, in the first place ..
if that's not meddling don't know what is
I'm sure everyone here'd like a nice cheque twice a year for doing what they do anyway, subsidised fuel, no VED, no trailer rules (you know what I mean - there are but so what ), no rates/UBR on premises, grants ranging from 50-90% for building erections, all sorts of planning exemptions and on and on and on ................

Waiting to see what unravels this year because SFP (or BPS as it had become i think) has been done away with and as yet i don't think any replacement scheme announced.

 

[Gunners]

Farming can be incredibly profitable one year and incredibly loss making the next - all dependant on this thing called the weather. And you could argue that some of the subsidies are to keep the price of bread/ milk/ whatever etc, the same no matter what the harvest. Farming as a business is a terrible gamble with very big numbers involved and to spend hundreds of thousands on drilling a crop then hoping for kind weather is not my idea of a business model.

Now I'm not going to enter into some contest about how many farmers I've met, worked for or known, but I will say that in my experience (which is mostly arable) the farmers I have known are far more technologically ahead than us in the construction industry, are doing more for conservation than the entirety of the national trust, and yet some years still struggle to make a profit if the weather is bad.

And yes they pretty much all have scrap round the back of the barns but when you really need to fix something mid harvest - the amount of times we've played scraphead challenge and won by keeping said £100,000 machine going with old metal because the parts were a couple of days out - I'd say the scrap more than pays for itself. Yes it can get excessive and look unsightly, but when you really need something the same day its worth its weight in gold.

The above support for farmers does not mean that they don't need to modernise, indeed, many are still farming as they did in the 60's and unfortunately for them, as the tractor revolutionised practices back then, I feel the reform of subsidies will do the same to many now - especially at the smaller end of the scale who haven't really modernised.
And what's all this about farmers complaining they are poor in the pub? Only ones I seem to speak to complain a lot more about the weather!

The real issue with farming is the supermarkets... if they gave a bit more of the profit margin to the producers then arguably we could cut subsidies all together but maybe that's another discussion. What's going on with the pig and egg producers right now is outrageous and completely solvable by the big buyers if they decide they want to.

 

[V8Druid]

Farming can be incredibly profitable one year and incredibly loss making the next - all dependant on this thing called the weather. And you could argue that some of the subsidies are to keep the price of bread/ milk/ whatever etc, the same no matter what the harvest. Farming as a business is a terrible gamble with very big numbers involved and to spend hundreds of thousands on drilling a crop then hoping for kind weather is not my idea of a business model.

Now I'm not going to enter into some contest about how many farmers I've met, worked for or known, but I will say that in my experience (which is mostly arable) the farmers I have known are far more technologically ahead than us in the construction industry, are doing more for conservation than the entirety of the national trust, and yet some years still struggle to make a profit if the weather is bad.

And yes they pretty much all have scrap round the back of the barns but when you really need to fix something mid harvest - the amount of times we've played scraphead challenge and won by keeping said £100,000 machine going with old metal because the parts were a couple of days out - I'd say the scrap more than pays for itself. Yes it can get excessive and look unsightly, but when you really need something the same day its worth its weight in gold.

The above support for farmers does not mean that they don't need to modernise, indeed, many are still farming as they did in the 60's and unfortunately for them, as the tractor revolutionised practices back then, I feel the reform of subsidies will do the same to many now - especially at the smaller end of the scale who haven't really modernised.
And what's all this about farmers complaining they are poor in the pub? Only ones I seem to speak to complain a lot more about the weather!

The real issue with farming is the supermarkets... if they gave a bit more of the profit margin to the producers then arguably we could cut subsidies all together but maybe that's another discussion. What's going on with the pig and egg producers right now is outrageous and completely solvable by the big buyers if they decide they want to.

totally agree with the last sentence/para. ..... they should not be dictating to their suppliers a price that gives them a massive share of the profits and very little to the actual producers they have weedled themselves into this position of power and the producers have allowed this to happen with years of complacency over getting reasonable prices, but are now backed into a corner with few other markets to play off against the big boys

 

[6feetdown]

Farming can be incredibly profitable one year and incredibly loss making the next - all dependant on this thing called the weather. And you could argue that some of the subsidies are to keep the price of bread/ milk/ whatever etc, the same no matter what the harvest. Farming as a business is a terrible gamble with very big numbers involved and to spend hundreds of thousands on drilling a crop then hoping for kind weather is not my idea of a business model.

Now I'm not going to enter into some contest about how many farmers I've met, worked for or known, but I will say that in my experience (which is mostly arable) the farmers I have known are far more technologically ahead than us in the construction industry, are doing more for conservation than the entirety of the national trust, and yet some years still struggle to make a profit if the weather is bad.

And yes they pretty much all have scrap round the back of the barns but when you really need to fix something mid harvest - the amount of times we've played scraphead challenge and won by keeping said £100,000 machine going with old metal because the parts were a couple of days out - I'd say the scrap more than pays for itself. Yes it can get excessive and look unsightly, but when you really need something the same day its worth its weight in gold.

The above support for farmers does not mean that they don't need to modernise, indeed, many are still farming as they did in the 60's and unfortunately for them, as the tractor revolutionised practices back then, I feel the reform of subsidies will do the same to many now - especially at the smaller end of the scale who haven't really modernised.
And what's all this about farmers complaining they are poor in the pub? Only ones I seem to speak to complain a lot more about the weather!

The real issue with farming is the supermarkets... if they gave a bit more of the profit margin to the producers then arguably we could cut subsidies all together but maybe that's another discussion. What's going on with the pig and egg producers right now is outrageous and completely solvable by the big buyers if they decide they want to.

Yep supermarkets are to blame for a lot as people want convenience.
I've got a butcher who drops to me when needed. If I could find a similar greengrocer I'd be happy.
If people weren't so wasteful and lazy there would be more independent shops, although I'm sure councils much prefer the big guns

 

[Gunners]

Bit of yard tidying up/ extending this week. I await all your expertise on the quality of the material we have to work with... But fear not, this is just the lower layers going in.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Bit of yard tidying up/ extending this week. I await all your expertise on the quality of the material we have to work with... But fear not, this is just the lower layers going in.

Just be thankfull it's dry

 

[Left hooker]

Is that an expandastore? I've got one. Not the securest of things but ok for somewhere dry and out of sight. Strong money now think I paid 2 or 300 for mine

Yeah old wooden shed at mine was rotten and had to go about 5 years ago so got one of these to store kids bikes garden furniture and all other stuff like camping gear in the dry
Like you said not the hardest to get into if you wanted in but good enough

 

[Smiffy]

Bit of yard tidying up/ extending this week. I await all your expertise on the quality of the material we have to work with... But fear not, this is just the lower layers going in.

Bit disappointed in the equipment choice

 

[TiltyShaun]

Bit of yard tidying up/ extending this week. I await all your expertise on the quality of the material we have to work with... But fear not, this is just the lower layers going in.

Acting like the farmers he was defending earlier!!

 

[V8Druid]

Bit of yard tidying up/ extending this week. I await all your expertise on the quality of the material we have to work with... But fear not, this is just the lower layers going in.

quality fill there Ollie .... is that an old Sumi

 

[JD450A]

Bit disappointed in the equipment choice

Be better with a tractor running red diesel

 

[V8Druid]

Is that an expandastore? I've got one. Not the securest of things but ok for somewhere dry and out of sight. Strong money now think I paid 2 or 300 for mine

Yeah old wooden shed at mine was rotten and had to go about 5 years ago so got one of these to store kids bikes garden furniture and all other stuff like camping gear in the dry
Like you said not the hardest to get into if you wanted in but good enough

is that a collapsible sort of box guys ... think there was one on FB MP recently, for not a lot ... like this .... can't see the original one ... must've gone IIRC was £450 and used

 

[Smiffy]

Be better with a tractor running red diesel

Well it is a new Holland so half way there

 

[V8Druid]

Just be thankfull it's dry

aye ... been a long way short of dry here last couple of days ...... and wild with it ... has ripped the cowl off the top of the wood burner flue .. most of it's still there but the china man's hat and a baffle plate are on the deck after the 4 x 4.5mm pop rivets keeping 'em friends with the rest have relinquished their struggle with the South Westerly, having a bloody good go, Wed.s night .... sod doing anything with it 'til it calms down a bit

 

[Furniss]

Few questions concerning the truck.

1. Pressures in these Michelins below, is it a maximum or everyday pressure 130psi ?
2. How often/many kms do you truck men grease the steering ? I know usage varies but as rule of thumb ?
3. Radio isn't bluetooth so going to put another in ...will fittings be standard to all radios ?