the Global Warming fiasco -- or how to tax the **** out of us

V8Druid

V8Druid

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V8Druid

V8Druid

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V8Druid

V8Druid

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very interesting and makes cow farts look pretty insignificant .... as has been said and proven before, we're coming out of a mini ice age and this could well be just another natural cycle ... but the greenies ain't gonna admit to that one :mad:
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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this is unbelievable ........ big landowners scoring several times

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" A report has called on ministers to scrap the huge subsidies and tax breaks given to conifer forests because they do too little to combat the climate crisis.
The report from the Royal Society of Edinburgh said the tens of millions of pounds in subsidies given to the timber industry should instead be spent on longer-living native forests, which have greater and clearer climate and biodiversity benefits.
It said the Scottish and UK governments are wrong to argue that public subsidies are needed to help plant more, larger conifer forests. These plantations are largely monocultures using a single species that have a relatively short lifespan.
Instead, public subsidies should be diverted to planting millions of native broadleaf trees, including in urban areas, which capture and keep more CO2, support more plant and animal species, store more carbon in the soil, and have a far longer lifespan.
The RSE report found that:
  • In Scotland, ministers have subsidised forestry by more than £390m over the last decade, with roughly 80% of that spent on commercial conifer plantations, as well as extra subsidies for haulage.
  • Timber companies and landowners pay no corporation tax on their income from forests; profits from timber sales are tax-free; there is no capital gains tax on the value of the trees, and 100% inheritance tax relief on the forestry property.
  • Forest owners were also able to sell carbon credits, adding to the attractiveness of forestry as an investment.
  • These grants, tax breaks and carbon credits had helped to substantially drive up land prices in Scotland, up by 73% in a single year, greatly distorting the land market and pricing people out.
  • Government agencies are not properly enforcing policies which require environmental impact assessments on new forest projects; their approach is “inadequate” and “passive”.
The RSE, Scotland’s national academy, said significant changes in government strategy were urgently needed at a time when governments are cutting public spending, including on nature recovery.
“Our scarce public funds must be used to maximise benefits for both the public and our environment,” said Prof Pat Monaghan, regius professor of zoology at the University of Glasgow and one of the report’s authors.
She said: “We now face the twin crises of climate change and biodiversity loss. We must ensure that our investments in tree planting are done in ways that reduce our carbon emissions without reducing our precious and fragile biodiversity.”

The RSE said it was very surprised the Treasury had no data on how much tax the exchequer had foregone due to these tax breaks, even though these policies had been criticised repeatedly in recent decades.
While tax breaks for forestry are the same as those for farming, this support for forestry appeared to be based on the notion that having a domestic timber supply was of strategic importance at time of war – a policy that had been scrapped in the 1950s.

The Department for Environment, Farming and Rural Affairs, which oversees policy and funding for England, set aside £222m between 2020 and 2024 for woodland on private land. But 77% of English woodland is native broadleaf, compared with 29% in Scotland.

Prof Ian Wall, who chaired the RSE’s inquiry, said: “The role of trees – the right trees in the right place – in improving biodiversity, carbon-capture, and wellbeing in both urban and rural environments cannot be overstated.”

Scottish Forestry, the government agency, and Confor, the timber industry body, said there was clear evidence that conifers stored up to four times more carbon at a faster pace than slower-growing hardwood trees. The timber industry in Scotland supported 20,000 jobs and generated £800m for the economy.


Scottish Forestry said it would study the report but added: “Public forestry grants are a vital means to stimulating woodland creation and we will continue to support funding for both conifer and broadleaf planting.”

Confor said modern regulations already required conifer forests to be multipurpose, with a greater mix of species and more emphasis on eco-tourism. The World Bank had forecast the move to use timber instead of carbon-intensive concrete and steel in construction would require four times as much timber by 2050.

“Government grants provide a contribution to the cost of establishing a new forest and compensate for the loss of income from the previous land use. Once established no other grants are provided,” Confor added.

“We simply don’t recognise the RSE’s assertions that public policy is driving the planting of as many trees as possible rather than ‘the right tree in the right place’. This is not supported by an analysis of what is being planted or the public policies that sit behind tree planting.”

A Treasury spokesperson confirmed forestry enjoyed tax relief and exemptions, but said: “We are committed to keeping the tax system simple by not introducing different tax-treatments for all the different types of tree in the UK.” "
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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6feetdown said:
dailysceptic.org

Motorway 60mph Restrictions to be Scrapped – The Daily Sceptic

The 60mph speed restrictions on the M1 and M6 will be removed after National Highways admitted air pollution had risen in places and it didn't know whether the restrictions had helped.
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One really wonders what they do actually know ..🤔🫣 it's laughable if it wasn't our money they were playing with on a whim.

Came up the M5 through it last week...let's just say glad it's not average speed 😬
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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" National geographic did an article on disappearing insects. There are insect traps, that have been sitting in remote forests , in the same location for 50 years, miles from anyone, except the university researchers who go to count insects. The number of insects has plummeted drastically. It's a catastrophe. Without insects entire food chains are destroyed. No crops pollinated, no food for birds, amphibians, reptiles, shrews, etc.. That means that when the frogs die off, and they are, that the animals that feed on them die off, all the way up the food chain.

This is truly a catastrophe, and no one knows about it, because all attention is focused on global warming. "
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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might be of interest to some?

www.mclanahan.com

C&D Recycling 101: How To Recycle Aggregate Materials and Work Toward…

Download this guide to learn more about C&D waste materials and the best practices for recycling C&D debris.
www.mclanahan.com www.mclanahan.com


www.agg-net.com

Aggregate Industries launch carbon-neutral Foamix Eco

Company launches most sustainable and lowest-carbon asphalt construction material to date
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" AGGREGATE Industries have launched Foamix Eco, a ground-breaking, on-site asphalt material that can achieve carbon-neutral status. " can smell the BS from here .... they've bought a few forests here and there to offset against
 
S

Smiffy

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V8Druid said:
might be of interest to some?

www.mclanahan.com

C&D Recycling 101: How To Recycle Aggregate Materials and Work Toward…

Download this guide to learn more about C&D waste materials and the best practices for recycling C&D debris.
www.mclanahan.com www.mclanahan.com


www.agg-net.com

Aggregate Industries launch carbon-neutral Foamix Eco

Company launches most sustainable and lowest-carbon asphalt construction material to date
www.agg-net.com www.agg-net.com
" AGGREGATE Industries have launched Foamix Eco, a ground-breaking, on-site asphalt material that can achieve carbon-neutral status. " can smell the BS from here .... they've bought a few forests here and there to offset against
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More like it's warm lay recycled s**t that will be full of potholes within a month
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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so ..... we're supposedly phasing out oil reliance and the new innovation for building is .....

www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

Threaded block system goes for lift off

Leicester-based architect/surveyor RG&P is supporting the development of a new building system using geopolymer concrete blocks.
www.theconstructionindex.co.uk www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

polystyrene is made from crude oil styrene

and .....

www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

MoD backs construction block producer

A Scottish company that makes plastic interlocking building blocks has secured further investment, including a loan from the Ministry of Defence.
www.theconstructionindex.co.uk www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

yet another hydrocarbon based material

couldn't make it up
 
6

6feetdown

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V8Druid said:
so ..... we're supposedly phasing out oil reliance and the new innovation for building is .....

www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

Threaded block system goes for lift off

Leicester-based architect/surveyor RG&P is supporting the development of a new building system using geopolymer concrete blocks.
www.theconstructionindex.co.uk www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

polystyrene is made from crude oil styrene

and .....

www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

MoD backs construction block producer

A Scottish company that makes plastic interlocking building blocks has secured further investment, including a loan from the Ministry of Defence.
www.theconstructionindex.co.uk www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

yet another hydrocarbon based material

couldn't make it up
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And filled with spoil or gravel, gravel usually comes from a quarry!
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
V8Druid said:
so ..... we're supposedly phasing out oil reliance and the new innovation for building is .....

www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

Threaded block system goes for lift off

Leicester-based architect/surveyor RG&P is supporting the development of a new building system using geopolymer concrete blocks.
www.theconstructionindex.co.uk www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

polystyrene is made from crude oil styrene

and .....

www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

MoD backs construction block producer

A Scottish company that makes plastic interlocking building blocks has secured further investment, including a loan from the Ministry of Defence.
www.theconstructionindex.co.uk www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

yet another hydrocarbon based material

couldn't make it up
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and when we can no longer use plastics, bumpers, dash boards, etc. will be Papier-mâché .... we'll all be driving modern day Trabants :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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Lancs Lad said:
"scientists are struggling to explain exactly why the end of 2023 was so warm."🤣🤣

www.bbc.co.uk

Climate change: 'Uncharted territory' fears after record hot March

Monthly hot streak continues in March with scientists struggling to explain the scale of recent heating.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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" temperatures began breaking records by a particularly large margin around last September, and back then, El Niño was still developing, so can't explain all of the extra warmth.
Dr Schmidt is concerned about what this means for predictions going forward.
"Our predictions failed quite dramatically for the specifics of 2023, and if previous statistics don't work, then it becomes much harder to say what's going to happen in the future," he said.
"We're still trying to understand why the situation changed so dramatically in the middle of last year " "

pretty simple really, when you look at the vast numbers of 'wildfires' and the area they all covered globally .. add to that the heat generated by continuing deforestation in various areas of the world and there's a very significant amount of heat going skywards :rolleyes: ...... oh .. and don't forget all the private jets dashing about all over the world to their various climate conferences ..... and the amount of hot air generated at them :mad::mad:
" ..... we are committing ourselves towards a future where 2023 will be the new normal." " ... a few extra deg.s'd be pretty good here, right now :rolleyes:
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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V8Druid said:
and talking of hot air .... this lot're worried sh1tless that the gravy train might stop

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I hope Rishi also gets wired into all the public service bodies “working from home” I’m sick of not being able to get a hold of anyone anymore that’s being fed from the public purse . No longer can you ask a reasonable question over the phone and get an answer. Put it in an email and I will get back to you , once I’ve walked the dog , gone to the shops, had my hair done and fed the kids .
Get them all back in the office where what they are doing can be monitored .
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Vinpetrol said:
I hope Rishi also gets wired into all the public service bodies “working from home” I’m sick of not being able to get a hold of anyone anymore that’s being fed from the public purse . No longer can you ask a reasonable question over the phone and get an answer. Put it in an email and I will get back to you , once I’ve walked the dog , gone to the shops, had my hair done and fed the kids .
Get them all back in the office where what they are doing can be monitored .
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funnily enough I was reading a front page (mail I think), laying the Morso this morning -- think it was 2022 .. some minister threatening to sack every one that didn't get their arse back behind a desk in Whitehall ... died a death BTLs :mad: :mad:

edit .... got it - well the story anyway
news.sky.com

Anger as Rees-Mogg tells ministers to stop civil servants working from home

The Cabinet is condemned over the push to stop staff working from home, with ministers accused of ignoring the efficiencies this arrangement brings in a move that "just looks vindictive".
news.sky.com news.sky.com
 
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Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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V8Druid said:
funnily enough I was reading a front page (mail I think), laying the Morso this morning -- think it was 2022 .. some minister threatening to sack every one that didn't get their arse back behind a desk in Whitehall ... died a death BTLs :mad: :mad:
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That might of been Rees-mog I’m not a fan of his but he sometimes says it as it is
 
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