skid steer or wheel loader?

barracane

barracane

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sorry for the banal question, among the mini loaders with the same weight and power which one should consider the wheeled or the tracked? especially in agriculture? in my opinion the tires are more agile and snappy faster, while the lower more balanced crawlers have more lifting force more traction more penetration and tear during excavation the lower center of gravity makes them more stable, the tires are more versatile type mini back hoe, excavators can be installed instead of the bucket hammers, forklift-type forks hooks like small cranes what do you think what is your opinion about it? thanks waiting for clarification. thanks..
which brand and model lends itself to multiple functions and applications such as multitaskin.

Ghel
- Komatsu
- Case
- Cat
- Bobcat
- New Holland
Eurocomach
 
APhillips

APhillips

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If my memory serves me right, I seem to remember reading somewhere that the US (Massive skid steer market) has pretty much moved completely to Tracks regardless of application.
 
Bri963

Bri963

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There’s still a huge market for wheeled Skid steers. They cheaper to buy and run, and if you’re on tarmac or concrete, far faster. Tracked skidsteers (CTL’s) have good carrying capacity, and are good at spreading but for digging and loading they aren‘t great in anything other than very loose material. I’d rather have a backhoe for loading. Better on your back. However, if you want to put money (lots of it) into attachments, a skid steer is a fine all rounder.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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If my memory serves me right, I seem to remember reading somewhere that the US (Massive skid steer market) has pretty much moved completely to Tracks regardless of application.
Interesting you mentioned the US where dumpers are unheard of. A tracked loader to be of any use needs to be able to handle a ton bucket at least and would likely cost 40k or more. A 6 ton dumper new isn't much more than half that, or second for a quarter the cost or less, or hired for under £200 a week.
 
Stubota86

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sorry for the banal question, among the mini loaders with the same weight and power which one should consider the wheeled or the tracked? especially in agriculture? in my opinion the tires are more agile and snappy faster, while the lower more balanced crawlers have more lifting force more traction more penetration and tear during excavation the lower center of gravity makes them more stable, the tires are more versatile type mini back hoe, excavators can be installed instead of the bucket hammers, forklift-type forks hooks like small cranes what do you think what is your opinion about it? thanks waiting for clarification. thanks..
which brand and model lends itself to multiple functions and applications such as multitaskin.

Ghel
- Komatsu
- Case
- Cat
- Bobcat
- New Holland
Eurocomach

Messersi might be another one to consider as I believe they are made in Italy (or at least badged as Italian machines), although they look like new versions of older technology on first glance.
 
barracane

barracane

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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
nice VA boom on that first pic of the 360 and a 5 way blade .... never heard of them though, or Bencini
 
barracane

barracane

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CAMS GROUP is based in the Republic of San Marino and has been producing since 1969

industrial plants and machinery for construction and handling.
In recent years it has consolidated its image as a company on the market with reliable products, attentive to customer needs and to market changes. Inside it has three production units that operate in a single 20,000 square meter plant. on an area of 50,000 square meters.

CAMS GROUP is made up of CAMS INDUSTRIALE S.p.A. and CAMS MACCHINE S.p.A.



CAMS INDUSTRIALE S.p.A. page CAMS INDUSTRIALE S.p.A.
It produces industrial plants, plant components, mobile cranes and formworks. Thanks to the experience gained by its technicians in construction sites around the world, CAMS has become the market leader, with a range of products of maximum reliability and competitiveness and innovative solutions that have formed the success of the company and its customers.
Four production divisions operate within it:



PLANTS SECTOR
It mainly designs and builds plants for dry premixed products, for the storage of cement, port terminals for the storage of powdered materials.
COMPONENTS FOR PLANTS SECTOR
It manufactures components and accessories for plants for the management of loose material, in powder or granules from storage to transport to dedusting and control of the compounds: storage silos, tubular and channel augers, dedusting filters with sleeves and cartridges; all material of excellent workmanship and strength.
MACHINES SECTOR
With the acquisition of the BENCINI brand, CAMS INDUSTRIALE S.p.A. produces self-propelled mobile cranes from 6 to 26 T. with electric or diesel engines.
FORMWORK SECTOR
Designs and manufactures steel products for the construction of concrete structures such as dams, tunnels, piers, pulvini.


CAMS MACCHINE S.p.A. page CAMS MACCHINE S.p.A.
Founded in 2004 with the acquisition of the LIBRA Compact Technologies brand, a company that from 1988 to 2003 was involved in the construction of mini excavators and compact skid steers.
At present, CAMS MACCHINE produces twelve different models of mini excavators and six models of compact skid steer loaders. Thanks to the new technologies applied to all the machines in the range, the excellent Kubota engines and the innovative hydraulic systems and ease of use, the machines in the range guarantee reliability, strength and productivity in every work situation.
The fundamental points that have always distinguished CAMS GROUP are:
- quality
- competitiveness'
- technique
- services
The constant search for the collimation of these objectives has been the commitment made over years of work, checking the results step by step.
The internal organization of CAMS GROUP is a complete cycle from market research, to design, to construction, to on-site verification and its industrialization; the organization chart includes a competent technical office equipped with calculation systems on constantly updated processors, a sales office made up of technicians and not just salespeople, an internal workshop equipped with operating machines of maximum efficiency and with excellent potential. Construction is meticulous and everything is checked before being forwarded to the shipping office.
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Indirizzo
CAMS INDUSTRIALE S.p.A.Strada S. Michele, 37 Borgo Maggiore
47893 – Repubblica di San Marino
(+378) 0549 988111(+378) 0549 903793
CAMS MACCHINE S.p.A.Strada S. Michele, 37 Borgo Maggiore
47893 – Repubblica di San Marino
(+378) 0549 988111(+378) 0549 903793


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in italy there are 2 independent states, the papal state of the pope in Rome and the independent republic of san marino with subsidized tax regimes, this cams company operates in the state of san marino, i think for fiscal reasons, if it would operate in italy it would have failed like us all crushed by taxes and tax burden, instead in San Marino it is easier to work is like the Cayman Islands, an Italian tax haven.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
that CZ55 is a nice looking tool
 
barracane

barracane

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a friend of mine tells me that this brand is in line with the other brands, I honestly don't know it, I don't know if it's like kubota, bencini, I think it's very similar to Eurocomach. however I did not know they produced them in san marino, san marino is a magical fairytale place there are numerous castles and medieval fortifications, I have been there as a tourist you eat very well people are welcoming and warm, it is like being in a medieval fairy tale.



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however I am told that the legendary benati imola benati produces small construction machinery I believe with an Italian manufacturer called messersi. is it there? '


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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
....... it's very similar to Eurocomach. however I did not know they produced them in san marino, san marino is a magical fairytale place there are numerous castles and medieval fortifications, I have been there as a tourist you eat very well people are welcoming and warm, it is like being in a medieval fairy tale.

however I am told that the legendary benati imola benati produces small construction machinery I believe with an Italian manufacturer called messersi. is it there? '
certainly bears a passing resemblance to the Eurocomac m/c which have a decent reputation ... wonder how they compare price wise ... the Eurocomac are certainly dearer than average but you get what you pay for.

San Marino sounds like a place to go on the 'places to visit' list :cool: ........ if this sh1t ever lets us have a normal life again.
just heard this morning a friend is in hospital on a ventilator :(
 
barracane

barracane

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we hope that this pandemic ends soon, it is making more victims than a war it is a huge catastrophe worse than the plagues of egypt, it is more subtle than a snake. returning to the topic of hinowa what do you know ????

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