Roughneck Skip Loaders

V8Druid

V8Druid

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Druid will be along to comment on the 2 discos as well soon
customer used to have a pair of those roughneck things .... were forever repairing them ... I'd not want to be moving 'em about on anything other than solid ground ... he seemed to like them for their access capabilities ... not so their fragility
 
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Old Operator

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Nice little truck, but if I went for a newer vehicle the towing capacity would be the top of the list. The logs are more an aside than the main thing I do. Shortly I will no longer be constrained by what I can store in an ex council house garage. (I had pencilled in eventually a Yeti or Jimny for this reason) The Roughneck was only a stopgap. Not sure which way to go as I once part owned a 3C & was the working partner, the 2CX is out because of changing tastes & the end of red fuel. That leaves a sub 2.6T machine on a trailer. Think even a reconditioned true spider out because I need local hires - not all over the country in motels. Takes us back to a mini with good track expansion width, long blade arms & maybe a winch. So I need to be able to tow same. I quite fancy the older L200, if housing it is no problem. I am thinking longer term here, the Manor is OK for just now
I think these Roughnecks perhaps not for me, they have not been made new since about 2000, this might explain why. I do remember A Plant owning some, also some Ausa 108's (these were I thought designed for a much drier climate than ours) I owned a Winget 2S for some years, simple, reliable, but could not fill anything but a Ro Ro skip up ramps.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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I think from memory that square tube below the engine and the one opposite is to attach stabilizers
It's for the road tow wheels to slot into with a goose neck arrangement tow bar slotted into the socket behind the seat ... made them a reasonably balanced tow and wider for stability at speed on the road .... IIRC you tipped the skip when lowered to lift it to insert the road wheels
 
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Druid - what were the problems that needed repairing, hydraulic or general? If they were eating hyd components e.g. from cavitation then its a no go.
Did another wood delivery yesterday, think of steep narrow lanes in N Devon towns that only a tiny car may get up including customer's Citigo. I have said customer collect bags in future as just cannot do this anymore, was whacked, had to park on double yellow & barrow up side lane
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Druid - what were the problems that needed repairing, hydraulic or general? If they were eating hyd components e.g. from cavitation then its a no go.
Did another wood delivery yesterday, think of steep narrow lanes in N Devon towns that only a tiny car may get up including customer's Citigo. I have said customer collect bags in future as just cannot do this anymore, was whacked, had to park on double yellow & barrow up side lane
was mostly main frame cracking up and the lift arms the same ... IIRC only 3mm box and used to crack around the pivot points ... used to hole a suitable plate and reinforce around them, after welding up the cracks first ... eventually got on top of the arms, but the chassis was always going somewhere ..... bear in mind that these had droids at the helm.
if looking at one, go over it with a fine tooth comb, looking for issues or previous repairs .... pretty straightforward repairs, just that these were front line tools and it was a constant thing for a while .... fix one bit and a week later it'd be back for plating somewhere else ..... basically built too light - usual story - ship spoilt for a ha'peth of tar / bit more metal
 
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Thanks Druid, amazed it was not at least 4mm wall box, all of my Manor is, even the seat support! We had to identify & match this in the missing parts. As to the droids, this is why I would not do self drive hire, I fell into being a private landlord when I met a woman & did not want to lose the security of ownership, finally sold up end of '17, after much aggro, got out at right time ahead of the herd, you cannot give these places away now it costs to own them. I sold up before I did a murder, self drive similar. Could still be tempted if a tidy Roughneck came up, more of an all round tool than a site earthmover, lot of these awful lanes locally, people always need stuff shifting, eg the washing machines, could yet work if nothing better short term.
The lanes thing fed into the 2cx idea, as only 6ft wide but can handle full pallet of bricks, very over engined @ 70HP & now too thirsty, to say nothing of the insurance of such a machine leaves a tax trail that a pick up & trailer does not!
 
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Just a thought for an all round machine capable of a range of stuff with attachments, & pick & carry ability, very small skid steers were once common, I remember welding a Bobcat, it had no ROPS - but side mesh guards to prevent the driver's arms getting in the loader mechanism. Primary drive was a variable pulley & 'navvy style' directional clutches drove each side pair of wheels. Owner had two, former plasterer who wanted a change, he had buckets , forks & a shared backhoe that could pick up as work needed. Think they all hydraulic / hystat now, essential to be able to sit down to drive, not standing on a platform for hours. As you may imagine I would not be buying anywhere near new, think some only 1 mtr wide, Hoe not needed straight away as have little hoe
 
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Just a thought for an all round machine capable of a range of stuff with attachments, & pick & carry ability, very small skid steers were once common, I remember welding a Bobcat, it had no ROPS - but side mesh guards to prevent the driver's arms getting in the loader mechanism. Primary drive was a variable pulley & 'navvy style' directional clutches drove each side pair of wheels. Owner had two, former plasterer who wanted a change, he had buckets , forks & a shared backhoe that could pick up as work needed. Think they all hydraulic / hystat now, essential to be able to sit down to drive, not standing on a platform for hours. As you may imagine I would not be buying anywhere near new, think some only 1 mtr wide, Hoe not needed straight away as have little hoe

I think now they are replaced by the stand on type like doobins or the avant type machines.
Realistically can the roughneck handle much more than a belle power barrow. Which has the ability to put a flat bed on.
 
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Could be a good all round tool, I will check the litres capacity of the Manor buckets as to which model to look at e.g. 300 or 500 series, see Hyundai offer something similar, might be better going with Ross as items checked / tested first. It occurred to me whether possible to add a little trailer riding seat on two wheels, as seen behind big cylinder mowers at cricket fields. What they call a Dolly in the USA. 500 Series has a 'Japanese transaxle' I believe. Gather there are engine options at costs, any thoughts, Manor is genuine Honda GX 340 - but old

Was sent this link by my old partner in the 3C An interesting project, I think I have the junk lying around for it, Any thoughts? Am revving up towards building log splitter to run off Manor HPTO
https://www.facebook.com/reel/488555263411240?fs=e&s=aEkTS0
 
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Smiffy

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Could be a good all round tool, I will check the litres capacity of the Manor buckets as to which model to look at e.g. 300 or 500 series, see Hyundai offer something similar, might be better going with Ross as items checked / tested first. It occurred to me whether possible to add a little trailer riding seat on two wheels, as seen behind big cylinder mowers at cricket fields. What they call a Dolly in the USA. 500 Series has a 'Japanese transaxle' I believe. Gather there are engine options at costs, any thoughts, Manor is genuine Honda GX 340 - but old

Was sent this link by my old partner in the 3C An interesting project, I think I have the junk lying around for it, Any thoughts? Am revving up towards building log splitter to run off Manor HPTO
https://www.facebook.com/reel/488555263411240?fs=e&s=aEkTS0

Think it needs some guards.
Depending on how you want to process the timber these always look good and easy to build

On you tube there are plenty of home cooked versions
 
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I suddenly thought 1) the bar needs lubricating chain oil, 2) it needs at least re designing so the operator stands behind the bar not in front of it! because if the chain breaks this is where it is thrown! On further thought I have a large spindle for a circular blade, probably a lower cost long term idea. Simple always best, but ingenious idea
 
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