Rhinox uni tusk

[Thediggerman]

Putting in some land drainage today with my ec15 and blew straight though the electric mains cable , new teeth on my bucket , didn’t even feel any resistance! Customer told me the cable had recently been replaced and was no where near as I was only going a foot deep
Anybody tried these uni tusk buckets from Rhinox ? We have a lot of clay and flint here , not really sure a blunt spade bucket would work

 

[JD450A]

Putting in some land drainage today with my ec15 and blew straight though the electric mains cable , new teeth on my bucket , didn’t even feel any resistance! Customer told me the cable had recently been replaced and was no where near as I was only going a foot deep
Anybody tried these uni tusk buckets from Rhinox ? We have a lot of clay and flint here , not really sure a blunt spade bucket would work

If your going through your going through.

 

[Smiffy]

Looking at the pictures I would rather have a normal bucket with a bit of hardo bucket edge welded to the teeth.
Has the same blade solotion but the blade protrudes further for clearing out under utilities and where the teeth protrude half way the bucket they are just sharp enough and usually the right geometry to be able to pull up tarmac or concrete in the trench line with the backer tilted right back but far enough out the way so you don't inadvertently damage things under normal digging.


Also did you cat scan the area first. A cat scan is a better investment than buckets if anywhere near domestic sites

 

[Thediggerman]

Also did you cat scan the area first. A cat scan is a better investment than buckets if anywhere near domestic sites

I don’t CAT scan , if I scanned the area and for whatever reason still went through something then the customer would turn around and say “ well it’s your fault you scanned the area !”
I always ask customers if there’s anything in the ground and if they have doubts then they should get the ground surveyed .
apparently this cable was replaced recently by the power company, yet it was only 2-300mm deep ,and the warning tape was right on the cable ! every time I’ve had to dig services trenches for new lines they’ve made me do them 750mm

 

[Gunners]

If the customer is going to take this on the chin for you then you are very lucky. Legally, whoever hit it is responsible for the damage, and that is why many of us on here make as many precautions as we can to avoid service strikes as it costs more than we charge for a days work to repair.
I get the idea of the Rhinox bucket but if you are digging like a mad man, it wont help anyway. Correct technique and some experience with reasonable guesses combined with a CAT and Genny should see you avoid most buried services. All my buckets under 450mm have the teeth removed and if you are digging in an area of suspected services then I always dig in layers. This allows you to see a possible change in soil type which could show up a trench etc and if you do come across a service, you have a good chance of just skimming over it rather than ripping through it. Yes it takes more time but its a lot cheaper than hitting the thing!
I appreciate services are rarely at the depth they should be, I've found HV under a skim of tarmac, NTL under an inch of grass, BT in the haunching of path edgings, and sometimes they put them in the sky too! (yes that's a telegraph pole that's been pulled over by a passing delivery lorry catching the cable - not me who caught it - I just happened to be under it at the time!) My point is, maybe they didn't put it in right, maybe the ground levels changed over time, none of those reasons is an excuse for striking services.
Arm yourself with as much knowledge of where you are digging as possible, having a quick look around can often give you an idea what might be lurking under - water meter covers, maybe a cable coming down from a pole and disappearing in the ground? All want investigating and my biggest lesson I learnt - dont trust the customer when they say there's nothing there!!! What do they know?!

 

[V8Druid]

If the customer is going to take this on the chin for you then you are very lucky. Legally, whoever hit it is responsible for the damage, and that is why many of us on here make as many precautions as we can to avoid service strikes as it costs more than we charge for a days work to repair.
I get the idea of the Rhinox bucket but if you are digging like a mad man, it wont help anyway. Correct technique and some experience with reasonable guesses combined with a CAT and Genny should see you avoid most buried services. All my buckets under 450mm have the teeth removed and if you are digging in an area of suspected services then I always dig in layers. This allows you to see a possible change in soil type which could show up a trench etc and if you do come across a service, you have a good chance of just skimming over it rather than ripping through it. Yes it takes more time but its a lot cheaper than hitting the thing!
I appreciate services are rarely at the depth they should be, I've found HV under a skim of tarmac, NTL under an inch of grass, BT in the haunching of path edgings, and sometimes they put them in the sky too! (yes that's a telegraph pole that's been pulled over by a passing delivery lorry catching the cable - not me who caught it - I just happened to be under it at the time!) My point is, maybe they didn't put it in right, maybe the ground levels changed over time, none of those reasons is an excuse for striking services.
Arm yourself with as much knowledge of where you are digging as possible, having a quick look around can often give you an idea what might be lurking under - water meter covers, maybe a cable coming down from a pole and disappearing in the ground? All want investigating and my biggest lesson I learnt - dont trust the customer when they say there's nothing there!!! What do they know?!

I dream of ground like you have in that 3rd pic Ollie .....

and if you get BT / openreach out to tell you where their lines are ....
completely ****ing ignore it, 'cos they have no idea ...
as proven by finding their cable, 3" below the surface, 20 ft and the other side of our driveway, from where they stated it was
and even skimming with an edge does not avoid a 23 pair line 3" below the grass roots
the leccy boys were a lot more accurate and me dowsing rods were spot on as usual

 

[Shovelhands]

Just get digging and hope for the best.