Redrock Pivot Steer Loaders

[barracane]

Redrock Pivot Steer Loaders
TH300, TH280, TH500,,TH 350 e TH400.-TH320.

hi, on the net I found this machine in the second-hand market, a cross between a telescopic telehandler and an articulated wheel loader, someone knows the manufacturer and the details on the machinery, engine, transmission, reliability for servicing it would seem a manitou or a jcb at first sight thanks sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[doobin]

Centre boom pivot steer. All the major manufacturers make or have made them.

Many an inexperienced op has pinned themselves against the side of a barn going into a pile of muck with a little too much gusto

 

[barracane]

I have never seen such a machine, I think John deere, jcb, perhaps class, manitou, FRATELLI DIECI in Italy, and other manufacturers that I do not remember now, I have seen various specimens on the net in the second-hand market of various manufacturers, from my parts I repeat no could they be used as small mechanical shovels for small jobs and earthmoving interventions or are they just forklifts for agricultural use and for breeding companies?

NC FH 225S PIVOT STEER TELESCOPIC LOADER????​

 

[Smiffy]

They don't work nearly as well as a loading shovel for loading dirt and rocks.
They are good rehandling tools in a builders yard. And great on farms for for mucking out animals and stacking bale's.
They also have more parts to wear and generally don't seem as heavily constructed as a loading shovel

 

[barracane]

It is possible that after 80 years of building and designing mechanical loaders the engineers have not been able to create the perfect, useful and versatile wheel loader for every occasion, Caterpillar, Komatsu, Volvo,Liebherr ,John Deere are not able to build the loader rubberized perfect suitable for any job, maybe it would cost too much to make it and design a universal machine, maybe the Chinese are thinking about it and build it in secret to put it on the market and fool the most famous manufacturers, thanks sorry if I disturbed and bored you.

 

[Smiffy]

I think it's more about weight.
Telehandlers want to be light and nimble with good reach. Light and nimble is not what you want for pushing into big piles of dirt like a loading shovel therefore one will always be a compromise at the others job

 

[Canal Navvy]

Both look quite Matbro ish to me, Matbro were taken over by powerscreen of Dungannon which is pretty close to both manufacturers

 

[Shovelhands]

Both look quite Matbro ish to me, Matbro were taken over by powerscreen of Dungannon which is pretty close to both manufacturers

Didn’t matbro end up being consumed by John Deere though?

 

[Smiffy]

Didn’t matbro end up being consumed by John Deere though?

I think they went via terex first didn't they ??

 

[Shovelhands]

I think they went via terex first didn't they ??

I dunno….I was sure that JD bought them out, as JD used to re-brand the matbro machines and sell them as JD.

 

[Smiffy]

I dunno….I was sure that JD bought them out, as JD used to re-brand the matbro machines and sell them as JD.

Just read John Deere bought the designs and terex built them under license from JD

 

[Canal Navvy]

The small artic-steer telescopic machines were brilliant on silage clamps, could really get into the corners and edges. Matbro once brought out some visiting Americans to see the TR250 I was driving on the clamp ,was entertaining to make a demonstration routine that I could put in at any point of the day

 

[barracane]

thanks for the clarification sorry if I insisted. every job needs its own machinery rightly you cannot have a versatile and universal machine, thanks again. as telehandler the merlo multifarmer had suggested to me, but it cannot be used as a mechanical shovel it has traction problems the wheels skid spin and skid it has problems with adhesion to the ground as you rightly say they are light and agile but a fair compromise between forklift, small crane and loader shovel, but without too many pretensions all to do but with little potential. right?

 

[CPS]

I have a little bit of experience with Redrock loaders, I fact I have a little bit of history as I built the last 2 ever built

When Redrock went bust back in 2009/10 I think it was, their dealer in Denmark Had a few machines on order, these where coming down the assembly line when the administers came in. The Danish guys then bought every thing from the administers, all the parts stock, the semi finished parts and the last two machines which had just been started to be assembled.
A friend of mine had been working as the factory service engineer for Redrock, so when they went bust he started up on his own to carry on the aftersales on the machines out in the field. At the time our business focused a lot on repairs, line-boring and pin and bush replacement etc. We used to work together a lot on some of the Redrock repairs.

In may of 2011 the dealer in Denmark ask him to go out to build the last to machines which they had bought of the line. Another guy was meant to go also but he pulled out and he asked me. So at the start of June we flew to Denmark to begin working on these, I had aloud one week as I was busy at home so we went Friday to Friday and worked over the weekend.

The Dealer had a great setup, a brilliant clean and tidy workshop, a lot of gear such as lathes and milling machines etc, which was a big help as the fly wheels where slightly different and we had to modify them.

The machines had the chassis and arms already assembled, 60% of the hydraulics and one had the engine mounted, so we fitted everything else.

We got them up and running, not to a finished standard but we had them running and driving and operational, just things like cab interior, body panels, mirrors and stickers etc. The Danes reckoned they could do the rest themselves.
Was a great week, busy and a challenge, But I loved every minute of it and will visit Denmark again someday soon. The Danes are great people, very friendly and we were treated like royalty. They gave us a service van for the week, to travel to the digs and back, booked us into a restaurant every night for food and generally give us the run of the place. On the last day I handed the guy back the keys to the van and he looked at me and said I think that's the first time the keys have been out of the van since we bought it! They didn't even lock the workshop at night..... must be a great country to live in.

 

[V8Druid]

I have a little bit of experience with Redrock loaders, I fact I have a little bit of history as I built the last 2 ever built

When Redrock went bust back in 2009/10 I think it was, their dealer in Denmark Had a few machines on order, these where coming down the assembly line when the administers came in. The Danish guys then bought every thing from the administers, all the parts stock, the semi finished parts and the last two machines which had just been started to be assembled.
A friend of mine had been working as the factory service engineer for Redrock, so when they went bust he started up on his own to carry on the aftersales on the machines out in the field. At the time our business focused a lot on repairs, line-boring and pin and bush replacement etc. We used to work together a lot on some of the Redrock repairs.

In may of 2011 the dealer in Denmark ask him to go out to build the last to machines which they had bought of the line. Another guy was meant to go also but he pulled out and he asked me. So at the start of June we flew to Denmark to begin working on these, I had aloud one week as I was busy at home so we went Friday to Friday and worked over the weekend.

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The Dealer had a great setup, a brilliant clean and tidy workshop, a lot of gear such as lathes and milling machines etc, which was a big help as the fly wheels where slightly different and we had to modify them.
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The machines had the chassis and arms already assembled, 60% of the hydraulics and one had the engine mounted, so we fitted everything else. View attachment 31567View attachment 31568View attachment 31569View attachment 31570View attachment 31571

We got them up and running, not to a finished standard but we had them running and driving and operational, just things like cab interior, body panels, mirrors and stickers etc. The Danes reckoned they could do the rest themselves.
Was a great week, busy and a challenge, But I loved every minute of it and will visit Denmark again someday soon. The Danes are great people, very friendly and we were treated like royalty. They gave us a service van for the week, to travel to the digs and back, booked us into a restaurant every night for food and generally give us the run of the place. On the last day I handed the guy back the keys to the van and he looked at me and said I think that's the first time the keys have been out of the van since we bought it! They didn't even lock the workshop at night..... must be a great country to live in.

great story Aiden ..... wonder if the place is still as crime free? ... have a mate with a Danish wife .... will have to ask her next time i see them

 

[homerrichards]

Some people I know used these steer loaders in so many various works. May I ask the difference between a pivot steer and a front-end loader?

 

[bobthebuilder]

Some people I know used these steer loaders in so many various works. May I ask the difference between a pivot steer and a front-end loader?

one pivots in the middle and the other doesnt

 

[V8Druid]

one pivots in the middle and the other doesnt

other one steers at the axle hubs (or in the case of a Thwaites Goliath the axles pivot on turntables between them and the rigid chassis )

 

[Fordman1982]

Redrock are an Irish agricultural machinery manufacturer based in Armagh. Their main business was built on the slurry tanker, silage trailer and general agri equipment market.

The telehandler business was started in the late 1990's early 2000's by the previous owner of the company. Quiet a few machines where sold in ireland and had the reputation of pushing anything with ease, but, had the problems of overheating and sometimes lighting themselves.

As in another post, yes, Redrock went bust due to what I believe where investments outside the company. Was bought and still going to this day at the "bread and butter" business - agricultural machinery!!!

Interesting - the designs and manufacturing rights for the telehandler was bought by Manitou!!!

NC, as someone else posted, is only 5miles away from redrock' base. Same kind of company. Started the telehandler business in the mid 2000's and still manufacturing them.

 

[barracane]

Thanks for your clarifying news, small manufacturers existed and existed that made and produced versatile, useful and powerful machinery for the industrial and agricultural sector, it is a pity that the financial crisis has cut off their wings and their legs were very ingenious and innovative. unexpected events of progress and changing times.