Picked up new Takeuchi TB219

JD450A

JD450A

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80l in 2 days?! That’a ridiculously frugal, I reckon my 2.5 tonne bobcat gets through 30l a day shifting timber.
That's why I love em.

Digging and casting clay and silt on a pond job. A good set of teeth helps 💪
 
doobin

doobin

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Must have been in sand or sticking to 8 hrs, but really flogging my 175 fuel use was around 50l a day. 290 is slightly less probs about rorys 40l. Tak 240 will do about 30l a day grafting and a lot more productive than ur 2.5 ton bobcat but as you say with red prices as they are its not breaking the bank. Imho if you're on grab work shifting timber it's not particularly hard work fuel wise it must use some fuel if it was digging hard for a day
Shifting timber and ripping out with the grab is hard work for us forestry boys- we always want it flat out, as fast as possible :ROFLMAO: and you're always carrying the extra weight of the grab and rotator too. Lots of tracking invloved too, which is power hungry.
 
GazCro

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Shifting timber and ripping out with the grab is hard work for us forestry boys- we always want it flat out, as fast as possible :ROFLMAO: and you're always carrying the extra weight of the grab and rotator too. Lots of tracking invloved too, which is power hungry.
In have a grab for my 9 tonner and hard digging works the digger harder than grab work.
 
doobin

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In have a grab for my 9 tonner and hard digging works the digger harder than grab work.
I’ve spent 75% of my excavating career ripping out and carrying to load fires. Imho tracking with grab work Is the hardest on fuel. Slewing to load a dumper uses bugger all, the initial breakout when digging is hardest but that’s not a lot of the whole cycle. Two speed tracking takes almost all the flow
 
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Smiffy

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Do these little machines not have the option of built in fuel pumps like the bigger machines ??
 
GazCro

GazCro

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I’ve spent 75% of my excavating career ripping out and carrying to load fires. Imho tracking with grab work Is the hardest on fuel. Slewing to load a dumper uses bugger all, the initial breakout when digging is hardest but that’s not a lot of the whole cycle. Two speed tracking takes almost all the flow
Ok so with more background info your use is hard on fuel and also explains you're lack of life out of tracks. Without wanting to get into an arguement could you not use a dumper more?
 
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Keif

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You'd have wet dreams about proportional servo controls on the joysticks too if you'd used them for the last five years and every other attachment you have other than a bucket has a hydraulic function (or two) ;) LIke I said to the Tak rep, most days I have a grab or a Powertilt on, and I'm using the aux every five seconds, often whilst tracking. Anything else is a major step backwards, and if I want a tilty in future I dont have to mess about with control systems, just plug and play.

When I have to use the grab or tilt on the micro, my knee is hurting after a few hours from jabbing the pedal. Granted, the E10 pedal wants some mods, but Im f***ed if Im going back to that on my main machine.

The Tb225 looks like a nice bit of kit, and I did look at it when buying a 2.8t. Trouble is it's kind of a halfway house for people who don't know if they want a 1.9t or a 2.8t. More width restrictions than a 1.9t, less power than a 2.8t, but it's main selling point is an extremely good balance of transportability, especially with buckets. As I already have a 2.8t and 1.2t, I'm looking for something firmly in the mini class which is nice and easy to tow and fit through small gateways.
Nice! I'd like to see more of your machine and attachments, is there a thread on it?
 
GazCro

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Do these little machines not have the option of built in fuel pumps like the bigger machines ??
Think all takeuchi from 3 ton upwards there standard. Below that size i don't think there needed imho
 
JD450A

JD450A

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Ok so with more background info your use is hard on fuel and also explains you're lack of life out of tracks. Without wanting to get into an arguement could you not use a dumper more?
He's only pulling brambles from grannies garden. Don't listen to what he spouts pretending to be a forestry contractor, biggest thing he handled last year was a 1" thick bramble stem 😂
 
GazCro

GazCro

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He's only pulling brambles from grannies garden. Don't listen to what he spouts pretending to be a forestry contractor, biggest thing he handled last year was a 1" thick bramble stem 😂
Tbh 2.5 tonner with grab and rotate wouldn't be fit for much more 😂
 
doobin

doobin

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Ok so with more background info your use is hard on fuel and also explains you're lack of life out of tracks. Without wanting to get into an arguement could you not use a dumper more?
Nah, you wouldn’t get bugger all brash into a dumper without it falling out and then you’d loose the dumper trying to get the brash onto the fire.
. You make a bit old messy long bundle that barely fits into the grab and then you throw it on the fire. It’s bloody efficient. Tracking can be minimised with lots of small fires but often one large one is more efficient.
 
JD450A

JD450A

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Need a tractor trailer 😂 not sure if the 2.5 tonner would reach over the side though 😂
 

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Nah, you wouldn’t get bugger all brash into a dumper without it falling out and then you’d loose the dumper trying to get the brash onto the fire.
. You make a bit old messy long bundle that barely fits into the grab and then you throw it on the fire. It’s bloody efficient. Tracking can be minimised with lots of small fires but often one large one is more efficient.
Get plenty on if loading it right. Push it down into skip its surprising. Don't need to drive onto fire track digger along occasionally to throw it on. End of the day lot less wear and tear on a dumper than tracking a digger. Ultimately tracks are for the digger to stand on whilst doing its work and to allow it get to where it can work, once you start tracking back and forth non stop you're running costs go sky high.
 
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Get plenty on if loading it right. Push it down into skip its surprising. Don't need to drive onto fire track digger along occasionally to throw it on. End of the day lot less wear and tear on a dumper than tracking a digger. Ultimately tracks are for the digger to stand on whilst doing its work and to allow it get to where it can work, once you start tracking back and forth non stop you're running costs go sky high.
Mate, simply put you don’t have a clue about land clearance. Half the places we run you wouldn’t get anything not on tracks on, let alone turn it around. You can’t load a fire off a footpath when doing ash dieback work with a dumper. Simple as.

I get the feeling if it ain’t red and grey, you’ll just bash it whatever people say. My diggers make plenty of money in land clearance, tracks, final drive oils and diesel is factored into the costs. £450 a day for a 2.8t on clearance/Arb work.
 
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All these are on slopes you wouldn’t drive a wheeled dumper up when even slightly damp, let alone run it back and forward.😉

On this job the digger performed the role of skidder, dragging some pretty big trees downhill to the fire for processing. Way more efficient than any rehandling
 

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GazCro

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Mate, simply put you don’t have a clue about land clearance. Half the places we run you wouldn’t get anything not on tracks on, let alone turn it around. You can’t load a fire off a footpath when doing ash dieback work with a dumper. Simple as.

I get the feeling if it ain’t red and grey, you’ll just bash it whatever people say. My diggers make plenty of money in land clearance, tracks, final drive oils and diesel is factored into the costs. £450 a day for a 2.8t on clearance/Arb work.
Not the case at all mate everyone wants/needs different things from machinery and what you choose to buy is up to you. In earlier posts you allude to the fact you don't get much life out of tracks i was merely suggesting other possibilities.
 
Bri963

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Nah, you wouldn’t get bugger all brash into a dumper without it falling out and then you’d loose the dumper trying to get the brash onto the fire.
. You make a bit old messy long bundle that barely fits into the grab and then you throw it on the fire. It’s bloody efficient. Tracking can be minimised with lots of small fires but often one large one is more efficient.

Big surprise for me isn’t how you do it, but that you’re allowed to burn it at all. I’ve cleared a lot of stuff bigger than 1” on more jobs than I can remember and Every job it all had to go off site. Mind you, a good lot went onto my log stack to keep the pennies rolling in over winter.
 
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