Options for tilt rotator on wacker neuson EZ26

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Maxus

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I've been in much the same position as you, trying to decide on what to do for the best. One of the biggest difficulties, for me anyway, is not being able to personally try all the available machines and tilt/rotators that could be suitable. We have to depend on what other users say to a large extent. That creates another problem...everyone is different. There is no universal machine or attachment that is the best. I guess that is understandable as we do not all have the same requirements.
Time will tell if I have made the correct decision for me. Here's hoping. Good luck with your search.

This is very true, its feels like a big (expensive) leap into the dark getting into tiltrotators. It's pretty rare to to even see a machine with a tiltrotator in the UK. One thing is for sure though, no matter what you get, within reason, the consensus is they're well worth it. Steelwrist is definitely up there with the best from my research and the next gen CAT's look incredible.

Reading through the chats has been invaluable
 
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Not sure about the 5 tonne range... but on the 2.7 is definitely on the cusp between 2 different sizes.

S40 Rototilt rc1 direct mount (115kg) with 1000mm grading bucked(106kg), gripper or top hitch(36kg) total weight 287kg.

S30 Engcon ec102 (78kg) hydraulic top hitch (30kg) 900mm grading bucket (80kg) total weight 188kg.
Thats S30 via S40 though, rather than manufacturer differences,

I rest my case!
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Not sure about the 5 tonne range... but on the 2.7 is definitely on the cusp between 2 different sizes.

S40 Rototilt rc1 direct mount (115kg) with 1000mm grading bucked(106kg), gripper or top hitch(36kg) total weight 287kg.

S30 Engcon ec102 (78kg) hydraulic top hitch (30kg) 900mm grading bucket (80kg) total weight 188kg.
287kg is a ridiculous amount of weight on the end before you've even dug into anything! When I had an EZ26 on hire I put all the buckets (about 280kg) it came with out at full stretch and it had the machine over out the side. My own conventional tail 2.8t didn't budge at all, so I'd say S40 on that basis will be bloody awful on a EZ26!
 
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6feetdown

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287kg is a ridiculous amount of weight on the end before you've even dug into anything! When I had an EZ26 on hire I put all the buckets (about 280kg) it came with out at full stretch and it had the machine over out the side. My own conventional tail 2.8t didn't budge at all, so I'd say S40 on that basis will be bloody awful on a EZ26!
Exactly that's why I have an extra 120 ish kg extra on the counter weight. Try a full bucket of wet clay on the end without and you'll know about it
 
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Brendan

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Been doing a lot of pontificating around what to go for re tilt rotator and have a much better idea of what I want and how it all works. Thought, for my sins, I'd share my thoughts and see what you thought!

I'm thinking to go with rototilt rc1, direct mount with an ss9 type control system (rcs2?) (4 pipe setup with a switch wired in to the cab to divert either tilt or rotate to grab), and on s40. It also has a screen in the cab that controls the hydraulic hitch, so i could add a hydraulic top hitch if i felt like i needed it later down the line using the machines existing hydraulic hitch lines. I don't want to, or do arb work very much at all, so the compromise on the grab is acceptable. Direct mount will loose me less break out force if i want to put a ripper tooth on and dig out the odd stump, and will of course keep the weight down. If I need to I can run attachments, breaker, auger etc. even flail.... I rarely use these so the additional build height, weight and expense of a top hitch makes little sense, but I could add in the future if my work changes. From what I understand the rc1 units are pretty bullet proof. Apparently S40 is the way to go on this size machine and is that much more common if looking for suitable attachments.

I've been a bit put off engcon hearing about less than optimal reliability and the ec02 might be a bit on the delicate side mounted directly on this size of machine. Plus, with the engcon I've been advised to go for dc2 which is stupid money.

Steelwrist x04 is a good contender but I've yet to be convinced or understand exactly how it would pair with the EZ26. I have seen a few EZ26 x04 setups on ebay, not sure if that's a good or bad thing! I've not seen an rc1 on an EZ26, or on any 2.7t machine. I would be interested to hear if someone has had experience operating 4 piper on the EZ26, as the dc2 recommendation was because it's guaranteed to feel a certain way, whereas 4 pipe, relying on the machines hydraulics, will flow share and operate in an unpredictable way.
How much was the price quoted for the rc1 4 pipe setup?
 
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Maxus

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How much was the price quoted for the rc1 4 pipe setup?
Direct mount, with a 1000mm bucket, and installation 11.5k plus VAT. If i understood correctly, I would get a control box for hydraulic hitch and a switch installed, by my feet most likely, to change tilt function to grab. With regards to weight, the bucket iwas quoted is 106kg. So you could go direct mount s30 and get a smaller 900mm engcon bucket that's 80kg giving a total weight of 195kg....
 
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Maxus

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287kg is a ridiculous amount of weight on the end before you've even dug into anything! When I had an EZ26 on hire I put all the buckets (about 280kg) it came with out at full stretch and it had the machine over out the side. My own conventional tail 2.8t didn't budge at all, so I'd say S40 on that basis will be bloody awful on a EZ26!
Currently I've got 150kg with the hydraulic hitch and ditching bucket and thats been working well. An engcon ec102, top hitch and a 900mm engcon bucket would be 178kg, I'm confident that would work nicely for me landscaping on the EZ26
 
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Brendan

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Direct mount, with a 1000mm bucket, and installation 11.5k plus VAT. If i understood correctly, I would get a control box for hydraulic hitch and a switch installed, by my feet most likely, to change tilt function to grab. With regards to weight, the bucket iwas quoted is 106kg. So you could go direct mount s30 and get a smaller 900mm engcon bucket that's 80kg giving a total weight of 195kg....
That seems expensive for a 4 pipe I was given a price near that installed for the full fat 2 pipe version end of last year but to be fair was told a 26 version would be £13,600 plus 1800 fitting
 
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Maxus

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That seems expensive for a 4 pipe I was given a price near that installed for the full fat 2 pipe version end of last year but to be fair was told a 26 version would be £13,600 plus 1800 fitting
Interesting, I was told the r1 would be a lot cheaper, but they have none left! Typical. Missed out on the engcons deal for basic ec02 😑

Saying that though.... kinshofer have bought out a new small tilty the tr025. I'll be taking a closer look at that. Up to 2.6t, 83 kg, high flow auxiliary, no protruding rams, only catch its 30° tilt angle...
 
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Brendan

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Interesting, I was told the r1 would be a lot cheaper, but they have none left! Typical. Missed out on the engcons deal for basic ec02 😑

Saying that though.... kinshofer have bought out a new small tilty the tr025. I'll be taking a closer look at that. Up to 2.6t, 83 kg, high flow auxiliary, no protruding rams, only catch its 30° tilt angle...
Looking back at the price now it seems a lot cheaper than buying now but just can't get past the sticking point of it being nearly the cost of a new micro
 
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