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Monkeybusiness

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Whats the train weight on the MAN?
Only 6 tonnes on my 4x4 (3.5 tonne gross, 3 tonne tow weight but that eats into payload). The rear wheel drive has 3.5 tonne towing weight but not sure what it’s train weight is (must be more than 6 tonnes I’d hope!).
Mine has been over a weighbridge at 7.2 tonne with a trailer and looked/drove fine…
 
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Monkeybusiness

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Prices are brutal for vans, thought I would have a look, no man prices so looked at the VW north of 40k, trendline 4x4 is 50k plus vat. How can anyone justify that amount on a van
List price on mine with a load of extras was nearly £54k plus vat, but they discount them heavily and it cost £35k plus vat. They have gone up quite a bit since though apparently.
 

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Monkeybusiness

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They have....we have one on order😖
A mate has a brand new (possibly still not been registered, but will be this week) 177bhp mwb auto front wheel drive with a nice spec (led lights, upgraded media package, reverse camera, AC etc etc) in blue that he’s probably going to sell as it took forever to arrive (in which time he bought another van). The FWD have a lower floor height in the back which is great for working in etc (and ideal for converting to a camper). Think he’s after offers around £38k plus vat.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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They have....we have one on order😖
I've a mate had a man on order for over a year now. Since he ordered they've gone up over 8k. We think the salesman he's dealing with has sold his van a few times and is hoping if he drags it out long enough my mate will cancel saving the salesman losing 8k. Trouble is mates the definition of stubborn when he wants to be
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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I've a mate had a man on order for over a year now. Since he ordered they've gone up over 8k. We think the salesman he's dealing with has sold his van a few times and is hoping if he drags it out long enough my mate will cancel saving the salesman losing 8k. Trouble is mates the definition of stubborn when he wants to be
Those salesman occasionally get burnt..
Someone I know ordered a very nice iveco 7.2t rig. Odd size and weights etc for his line of work...
They messed him about etc etc..so when they rings him up to say it's ready...he walks away..
It's been on their forecourt for at least 2 months now 🫣🫣
 
pettsy

pettsy

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I’m fancying a new-ish crafter or tga for my next van. Just don’t know wether to look at fwd or rwd as won’t be towing much and probably not running at full weight.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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I’m fancying a new-ish crafter or tga for my next van. Just don’t know wether to look at fwd or rwd as won’t be towing much and probably not running at full weight.
It'll probably be dictated by what you can get your hands on😑
But I've a feeling things may alter next year ...
I'd love a crew cab 4x4 for the days out 😎 but mega money for nice ones...
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I've still got it in my head you can't drive over 3.5t without an operators license unless it's a special purpose vehicle, like 4x4 pickup or something. Am I wrong with this 🤔
Rory'll give you chapter and verse on it, but think you may be right ..... @JD450A ??
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

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I've still got it in my head you can't drive over 3.5t without an operators license unless it's a special purpose vehicle, like 4x4 pickup or something. Am I wrong with this 🤔
I can gross out on my Iveco 3500kg plus the trailer at 3500kg with an operators license.

Depends on what you are doing

Motor vehicles and trailers​

You need a licence for a motor vehicle and trailer combination if:

  • the motor vehicle and the trailer(s) are plated and the total of their gross plated weights is more than 3,500 kg
  • the total unladen weight of the vehicle and trailer combination is more than 1,525 kg
You do not need an operator’s licence if your trailer’s unladen weight is less than 1,020 kg and you only carry your own goods.
 
doobin

doobin

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I can gross out on my Iveco 3500kg plus the trailer at 3500kg with an operators license.

Depends on what you are doing

Motor vehicles and trailers​

You need a licence for a motor vehicle and trailer combination if:

  • the motor vehicle and the trailer(s) are plated and the total of their gross plated weights is more than 3,500 kg
  • the total unladen weight of the vehicle and trailer combination is more than 1,525 kg
You do not need an operator’s licence if your trailer’s unladen weight is less than 1,020 kg and you only carry your own goods.
Trailer under 1020kg and own goods is how I understood it.

Don't forget to add a pair of ramps to the trailer weight though.... @Justme :ROFLMAO:
 
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Stroppymonkey

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Iveco are the best chassis cabs/tippers IMO.
I’ve recently had a MAN TGE panel van (exactly the same as a VW Crafter) and it’s the bollocks.
Transits are for pikeys - you either are one or they will nick it off you as it is rightfully theirs in the first place!
That’s why after a lifetime (20 odd year and 20 odd vans) of panel transits when it came to needing a tipper I had to go for a different make!
 
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Stroppymonkey

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I can gross out on my Iveco 3500kg plus the trailer at 3500kg with an operators license.

Depends on what you are doing

Motor vehicles and trailers​

You need a licence for a motor vehicle and trailer combination if:

  • the motor vehicle and the trailer(s) are plated and the total of their gross plated weights is more than 3,500 kg
  • the total unladen weight of the vehicle and trailer combination is more than 1,525 kg
You do not need an operator’s licence if your trailer’s unladen weight is less than 1,020 kg and you only carry your own goods.
Within 100k radius if I recall correct
 
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