New-to-me Benford PT 3000, help wanted

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English_Cat

New member
So I've recently picked up a old benford dumper, and I've collected a bunch of information which I'll drop below for posterity (And edit in as I find out more)

I'm slowly going through it, but I've encountered a couple of issues.

The centre swing pin won't take grease at the lowest point. I tried to use hydraulic pressure to free it up, but no dice.

The grease nipple below the hydraulic lines located at the steering box won't take grease. I can't even see how the grease nipple screws off, not am I sure exactly what this greases.

Below this is a box with a grease fitting hose, this hose actually broke, and I've paid to have another one made, but that hasn't done me any good since this won't take any grease either, and I tried hydraulic pressure to about 9000 kpa. Again, I'm not entirely sure what this is to.

For the life of me, I can't find an air filter parts number for this thing either.

Other than that, it's just some small things that need to be put right. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I want this thing to last, and not use it until the bearings are dead.


Info dump below, applies to my dumper, your dumper might have a different engine.

Benford PT 3000
Machine plate 30000R

Year: 1999? Only date found on the machine, around the wiring harness.

Oil filter:

2313100

Fuel filter:

WK 716/2

Hydraulic filter:

uc mx1518-4-10


Newage 85M gearbox
Lister Ts3 engine
Newage G2000 Transfer box
Magneti mareli starter type 2m113, 27476A 12v
Danfoss OSPB 200 ON hydraulic steering pump


Alternator output: 45 AMPS
Battery cold start AMPS: Type 072 DIN 340A - IEC 420A

Lister engine sump oil capacity 7.2L. 10w30
Front axle 6L Mobilfluid 422 or Texaco AS Trans
Rear Axle 3.5L Mobilfluid 422 or Texaco AS Trans
Gearbox 2L SAE 85W/90
Transfer box 1L SAE 85W/90
Hydraulic tank 33L HDZ46
Brake fluid 0.2L HDZ46
Centre pivot grease: Texaco Multifac EP2
Rest of grease points: multi-purpose grease

Tyres: 11.5/80 x 15.3 x 8ply - 1675 kg
Front BAR: 2.75
Rear BAR: 1.50
 
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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
could try applying some heat to the stubborn grease galleries and pressurising them again ... could also try reaming them out with a suitably sized twist drill (don't snap it off though) or an Abrafile (if they still exist) in a drill (just googled 'em and they've been superseded by diamond coated wires) .. not a lot of good on solid grease as the old barbed 'wire blade' would be - still got a few some where
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
heat is the best remedy ,plenty of it
used to run TK Bedfords, maaaany years ago and the only way to grease the kingpins successfully on them was jack the wheels off the deck, warm the kingpins and pump it in hot ... made such a difference to the way they drove (y):giggle:
 
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Steve

Well-known member
Plant. & engineering services in Devon will be able to sort you out with any parts you need . They will be able to identify things like air filter just from your description.
 
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English_Cat

New member
Didn't expect so many responses so quickly! Usually you have to wait donkey years. I'll try jacking up the front wheels, heating it and then using hydraulic pressure.
 
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English_Cat

New member
After a long fight with heat and freeze spray proving inadequate, I brought out the big guns and had a hydraulic adapter specially made and used an electric enerpac to force out the grease.
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Mick-the-fitter

Mick-the-fitter

It’s what I do!
used to run TK Bedfords, maaaany years ago and the only way to grease the kingpins successfully on them was jack the wheels off the deck, warm the kingpins and pump it in hot ... made such a difference to the way they drove (y):giggle:
Agreed I did TK’s too, afterwards the power steering came back🤣🤣
 
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AndyM1958

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Bit late I know but I've attached the 3 Ton parts and operators manuals which might help you. If you can get axle or gearbox serial numbers I might be able to get the correct VIN for you.
 

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  • 3000 Dumper Publication B9309E-2 Jul 1999.pdf
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  • 2-9 Ton Ops Manual 1996-2000.pdf
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English_Cat

New member
Bit late I know but I've attached the 3 Ton parts and operators manuals which might help you. If you can get axle or gearbox serial numbers I might be able to get the correct VIN for you.
Manuals are worth their weight in gold, thanks a bunch.

I'll have a look at the numbers when I get a second.
 
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