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craig

craig

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An other thought, do you get on with you current employer? Are they approachable? maybe speak to them with your thoughts, it might just catch them right, they me be thinking of retiring or slowing down, just been offered a load more work, etc.
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Haulage must be a killer up your way for moving big kit around- spent 6 months living in D and G working with a tree gang whilst I was at the college at Barony and the distances between jobs was unreal, nothing is close together!
 
Canal Navvy

Canal Navvy

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Ideal combination is an ordinary 13 tonner moving around the local farms combined with a fairly standard road towable mini doing the domestic stuff.
A good operator will make a less than new machine shine 🙂
The real money comes from knowing who needs clean hard-core for their muddy yards and who is ecologically minded enough to want multiple hibernaculums 😉
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
That sounds like a good idea never thought about getting a duck and trailer?
don't forget -- you can't tow a trailer with a duck on UK roads - unless doing road maintenance with said duck and trailer -- loaded or empty :(
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Steve Blackdog

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@steven1784 As others have said, this is a big (and exciting) step. There's one thing being self employed and selling your services and time to a reputable outfit, but it's a whole different ball game to run a business.

I don't know you, so I have no idea whether that is something you'll be good at. You have to be good at maths (not calculus, but basically good with numbers) and good at paperwork. If you are not, you need to have someone close (spouse, partner, accountant etc) who can help you.

Here are a few thoughts (forgive me if I'm teaching grandma to suck eggs - as I said I don't know you).

1) Cash is king. It's no good having loads of work if you don't get on top of your cash-flow.
2) Sit down and make a list of absolutely everything that your business will have to pay for. Others can add to this list, but off the top of my head: plant purchase/hire, storage, transport, fuel, repair costs, tools, insurance (plant and people), advertising, bank charges (if you go overdrawn especially expensive), accountancy fees, software (eg quickbooks). There will be all sorts of other bits and bobs - think about them.
3) If you don't get paid, then what is your plan to cover your recurring costs? What if you are sick, or your machine is broken or you are going on holiday?
4) Don't forget tax - the more money you make the bigger your tax bill. It is so easy not to put money aside for tax or to use it to live on. Most business that fail are wound up by HMRC - they don't care if you've got the money coming in August when the client pays you - they need paying on time.
5) VAT - the bigger your plant, the more you will charge and the greater the chance that you will have to register for VAT.
6) build local relationships and keep your ear to the ground. Don't be flattered if a new customer asks you to quote for a big job. Ask yourself why they are going to you and not their regular operators - maybe they owe them money. Ask around. Don't be a busy fool.
7) budget for going to see jobs, quoting for them and not getting them.
8) keep on top of your billing. Agree up front the basis upon which you will invoice and the time for payment. Stick to it. Don't let your work-in-progress build up without billing it.
9) your hourly rate isn't cash in the bank - its all about making a profit when all the bills are paid.
10) Don't burn your bridges - make sure that if you need to go back to driving other peoples plant, you haven't dropped anyone them in the doo-dah. You never know where your future lies.

Finally, working for yourself can be very rewarding or a bit of a nightmare. Make sure you are honest with yourself. Being happy in your work should be at the top of your decision tree!

Good luck - have fun.
 
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doobin

doobin

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@steven1784 As others have said, this is a big (and exciting) step. There's one thing being self employed and selling your services and time to a reputable outfit, but it's a whole different ball game to run a business.

I don't know you, so I have no idea whether that is something you'll be good at. You have to be good at maths (not calculus, but basically good with numbers) and good at paperwork. If you are not, you need to have someone close (spouse, partner, accountant etc) who can help you.

Here are a few thoughts (forgive me if I'm teaching grandma to suck eggs - as I said I don't know you).

1) Cash is king. It's no good having loads of work if you don't get on top of your cash-flow.
2) Sit down and make a list of absolutely everything that your business will have to pay for. Others can add to this list, but off the top of my head: plant purchase/hire, storage, transport, fuel, repair costs, tools, insurance (plant and people), advertising, bank charges (if you go overdrawn especially expensive), accountancy fees, software (eg quickbooks). There will be all sorts of other bits and bobs - think about them.
3) If you don't get paid, then what is your plan to cover your recurring costs? What if you are sick, or your machine is broken or you are going on holiday?
4) Don't forget tax - the more money you make the bigger your tax bill. It is so easy not to put money aside for tax or to use it to live on. Most business that fail are wound up by HMRC - they don't care if you've got the money coming in August when the client pays you - they need paying on time.
5) VAT - the bigger your plant, the more you will charge and the greater the chance that you will have to register for VAT.
6) build local relationships and keep your ear to the ground. Don't be flattered if a new asks you to quote for a big job. Ask yourself why they are going to you and not their regular operators - maybe they owe them money. Ask around. Don't be a busy fool.
7) budget for going to see jobs, quoting for them and not getting them.
8) keep on top of your billing. Agree up front the basis upon which you will invoice and the time for payment. Stick to it. Don't let your work-in-progress build up without billing it.
9) your hourly rate isn't cash in the bank - its all about making a profit when all the bills are paid.
10) Don't burn your bridges - make sure that if you need to go back to driving other peoples plant, you haven't dropped anyone them in the doo-dah. You never know where your future lies.

Finally, working for yourself can be very rewarding or a bit of a nightmare. Make sure you are honest with yourself. Being happy in your work should be at the top of your decision tree!

Good luck - have fun.
Great post.
 
Furniss

Furniss

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I dont know your
@steven1784 As others have said, this is a big (and exciting) step. There's one thing being self employed and selling your services and time to a reputable outfit, but it's a whole different ball game to run a business.

I don't know you, so I have no idea whether that is something you'll be good at. You have to be good at maths (not calculus, but basically good with numbers) and good at paperwork. If you are not, you need to have someone close (spouse, partner, accountant etc) who can help you.

Here are a few thoughts (forgive me if I'm teaching grandma to suck eggs - as I said I don't know you).

1) Cash is king. It's no good having loads of work if you don't get on top of your cash-flow.
2) Sit down and make a list of absolutely everything that your business will have to pay for. Others can add to this list, but off the top of my head: plant purchase/hire, storage, transport, fuel, repair costs, tools, insurance (plant and people), advertising, bank charges (if you go overdrawn especially expensive), accountancy fees, software (eg quickbooks). There will be all sorts of other bits and bobs - think about them.
3) If you don't get paid, then what is your plan to cover your recurring costs? What if you are sick, or your machine is broken or you are going on holiday?
4) Don't forget tax - the more money you make the bigger your tax bill. It is so easy not to put money aside for tax or to use it to live on. Most business that fail are wound up by HMRC - they don't care if you've got the money coming in August when the client pays you - they need paying on time.
5) VAT - the bigger your plant, the more you will charge and the greater the chance that you will have to register for VAT.
6) build local relationships and keep your ear to the ground. Don't be flattered if a new customer asks you to quote for a big job. Ask yourself why they are going to you and not their regular operators - maybe they owe them money. Ask around. Don't be a busy fool.
7) budget for going to see jobs, quoting for them and not getting them.
8) keep on top of your billing. Agree up front the basis upon which you will invoice and the time for payment. Stick to it. Don't let your work-in-progress build up without billing it.
9) your hourly rate isn't cash in the bank - its all about making a profit when all the bills are paid.
10) Don't burn your bridges - make sure that if you need to go back to driving other peoples plant, you haven't dropped anyone them in the doo-dah. You never know where your future lies.

Finally, working for yourself can be very rewarding or a bit of a nightmare. Make sure you are honest with yourself. Being happy in your work should be at the top of your decision tree!

Good luck - have fun.
Yeah great post although I dont recommend point 2 😬 🙂
 
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steven1784

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As @doobin says that changes things.
Guessing your all ready self employed?
You may get away with a slightly older machine (vs housing site) keeping things a little more affordable while getting going, but its still a chunk sitting waiting for your break. As someone else said may be a smaller machine, (not direct competition to your current job) keep your ears open, and speak to the right people, grab any leads you can, do they best you can, and build from there.
Thanks for the advice
 
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