Leaking thermostat housing

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rooster cogburn

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Hello
My o2 manitou 1330 with a Perkins non turbo engine keeps running water out behind thermostat housing. A new one has been fitted and we can’t seem to get it to stop leaking. Mechanic has been at it a couple of times. Anything obvious that we are missing.
 
Bri963

Bri963

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Hello
My o2 manitou 1330 with a Perkins non turbo engine keeps running water out behind thermostat housing. A new one has been fitted and we can’t seem to get it to stop leaking. Mechanic has been at it a couple of times. Anything obvious that we are missing.
Which engine? And can you send a picture of the leak? Obvious questions, is the hose okay, and is there a crack in the spigot?
 
Gecko

Gecko

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Hi rooster - welcome.

First, do you have the single or double thermostat housing?
Second, do you have the gear driven water pump? (the manual lists four pumps, but I think they are all gear driven)

The thermostat housing and bypass hose 90deg adapter are plastic and I imagine will split if abused

Have you had the bypass hose off? A split can start at the end of the hose and work it's way under the jubilee clip
(when I replaced mine, I used the soft silicon hose and wide flange T-bolt hose clamps because they don't bite into the hose as badly as the worm-drive jubilee clips)

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If that checks out, I'd replace the gasket on the water-pump.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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Hello
My o2 manitou 1330 with a Perkins non turbo engine keeps running water out behind thermostat housing. A new one has been fitted and we can’t seem to get it to stop leaking. Mechanic has been at it a couple of times. Anything obvious that we are missing.
has it corroded a track in the mate faces, that the gasket can't 'take up' ? I'm not familiar with this particular engine though
 
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rooster cogburn

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This is the old one before fitting new one
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Gecko

Gecko

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That's not the engine I was expecting.

I'd suggest you to hit it with a high pressure cleaner (or steam if you have it) so it's spotless and you can see where water is appearing.
It looks like there is no glycol in the coolant - either that is the cause of your current problem or it's been leaking for so long, the glycol is all gone. Either way, adding some glycol will give an obvious 'tell' where it's coming out.

Has the thermostat housing been off?
I'd also put the head gasket on the list.
 
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rooster cogburn

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Was topping up mixed coolant but ran out and was using water for a wee while. Oil as clean as a whistle so unlikely head gasket. The housing had been of and resealed with a tube type stuff until new housing came which is now fitted but continues to leak
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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head gasket'd be my first thought looking at the pix
 
JD450A

JD450A

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I've a horrible feeling s**t gets caught between the block and the bolt on timing gear housing on those if it's a phaser and rots into the water jacket.
 
Bri963

Bri963

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Nothing making me think head gasket. It looks more to me like it needs a new timing case/block joint. If you’ve run it without glycol it may have corroded the mating faces, even with glycol they corrode eventually. You’ll need a new water pump joint and front cover/face joint. New bolts and make sure the ones that are MEAS coated (blue or green depending on where the batch of bolts came from) are replaced with coated bolts or loctited. They are in open holes and the coating is to prevent leakage. Everything to 22-24Nm and follow the sequence in the manual.

Obviously you’ll need to remove the timing gears, but to avoid losing your pump timing, take the high and low pressure pipes off and take the pump off with the timing case. Pretty sure you won’t need to remove the pump gear to get the bolts out. When it goes together, the idler gear bolts are 44 Nm and the camshaft 75 Nm, and if it’s a Stanadyne pump with a single nut, (I’ll dig the manual out to confirm) it’s about 110 Nm. Safest way to lock the engine when torquing the camshaft gear and pump gear is to take the starter off and lock the ring gear. Let Me double check those figures.

Don’t emery or scotchbrite the faces, use a bloody good scraper to clean the faces and careful not to scratch any mating surfaces.

All assuming you have a bit of mechanical knowledge, you might want to double check with your mechanic.
 
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