JCB hdt5 ‘25 or Cormidi C55 ‘23

[Tomo]

Hi all,

Looking to get a high lift tracked dumper for building work.

I’ve narrowed it down to a new jcb with 0% finance and 2 year warranty or a Cormidi c55 brand new ‘23 1 year warranty on parts only. Both are similar money.

Jcb Positives
0% finance
2 year warranty
Very local dealer

Negatives
Heard the tracking isn’t the best?
Heard of broken tracking gear?

Cormidi positives
‘23 new model going a lot cheaper than a new ‘25 one
Tracking is meant to be good?

Negatives
Tipper doesn’t tip enough so stuff can get stuck?

These two are significantly cheaper options than a slanetrac and they are both shorter at approx. 1700mm rather than the slanetrac at 1900mm which will suit me.

Has anyone had experience with the new jcb hdt5 and its ability to track and turn fully loaded? Any thoughts welcome.

Many thanks!

 

[Brendan]

I've got an old 2017 and my mate has a 2022ish model with the different track motors and a horn, he hasn't got the step but it's an expensive option.
Not too sure if it's any better turning with a full load not had them head to head but don't believe it's drastically better, from what he was saying and the few times I've used it not really noticed any real difference.
Generally better off throwing down a bit of OSB at turning points not only makes it easier to turn but saves tearing up the ground.
Tipping is excellent on the htd5 very rare anything stays in, just tends to be very sticky crap but most of it will still clear

Not tried the cormidi 55 but got an old c50 which is rated for 500kg but noticeably holds less material, mine is a bit swings and roundabouts the engine over revs so it is fast (1st gear slightly slower than the htd5's 2nd but is a bit skittish, but turns really well) tipping is crap might be an age thing but needs full revs to lift at a decent speed and the final angle it tips to isn't enough to always clear the material and thats pretty much every material bar gravel.

Latest htd5 is as far as I can tell has the same lombardini engine just with Kohler stickers, although thinking about it there might be a couple of small bolt on bits that are different, fuel tank isn't massive but normally lasts a whole day with it idling between loads.

the cormidi will more than likely be petrol so will drink fuel

In my limited experience of other manufacturers the backup of JCB, is second to none. Any issues and they are out next day (sometimes the same) to diagnose and repairs are generally the next day or even the same if it's something they have on the van

 

[Weaknee]

Id persoanlly buy a jcb as cormidi you have to scrape the muck out as doesnt tip far enough which becomes a real pain also if other people use them they tend to shake the life out of the machine also jcb is diesel so if using with a digger you only need to bring one type of fuel plus when a track comes off the cormidi it is a nightmare getting it back on

 

[Tomo]

Thanks both for taking the time, that's some great info!

I agree with muck getting stuck being a pain. I hired a c&f tracked dumper and although I don't know if it tipped as far as a cormidi or not, I was frequently having to rattle it death or ease it out with a spade. It did track quite fast if a little skittish! the scissor lift also made it pretty high if you ever wanted to handball blocks or something in and out of it.
I like the design of the jcb, it's seems lower to the ground than the c55. The c60 looks better form that point of view.

Although a diesel would be great I could live with petrol as the engines themselves are cheap are reliable and quieter I presume?

Has your Jcb been reliable Brendan? any quirks?

 

[Jimbo69]

I’ve got a Cormidi C55, it is better at tracking than the JCB but muck does get stuck in the skip. It’s 5 years old now and hasn’t been much bother, put a new throttle cable on a few months ago and new tracks, anything else it’s needed has been due to operator error. It’s due to be changed soon, what with, I’m still not sure.

 

[Tomo]

thanks Jimbo, that's good to hear. From a resale point of view the cormidi's seem to hold their value really well. I would be interested in knowing what you're considering next.

 

[Jimbo69]

thanks Jimbo, that's good to hear. From a resale point of view the cormidi's seem to hold their value really well. I would be interested in knowing what you're considering next.

It’s between the JCB and Cormidi. Probably leaning more towards the JCB, I haven’t priced one yet but I think they’re cheaper. Mine is hired out self-drive about 80% of the time so the electric start diesel is probably better for that, also the back up from JCB is good.

 

[Tomo]

I could do with knowing if the htd5 has enough tracking power on hills and ramps, it’ll end up having to pull itself up out of dug out areas and hilly sites.

 

[CPS]

Wouldn't be afraid of the JCB, i just sold one with the old track motors and it was sound.
Out of all the machines I don't think I ever put a spanner on it, although it didn't do much to be fair

 

[Tomo]

that's reassuring, do you know when they changed to the new track motors?

 

[DaveDCB]

I could do with knowing if the htd5 has enough tracking power on hills and ramps, it’ll end up having to pull itself up out of dug out areas and hilly sites.

No issue with the JCB either, they just like to dig themselves in when cornering in loose gravel etc, and jam up the tracks… but that happens to any tracked machine when giving them some stick!