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DaveDCB
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Stolen from another forum, but I knew you lot would get angry over it. 
JD450A
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I think personally he's missed a 0 off the daN force of those straps.....
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Lynchy
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Think he's more used to handling a 'strap on'?
Quattromike
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He never even mentioned they are on rope hooks 
Big Jordy
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Really boils my piss.. pretending to actually know what he is taking about.. the uneducated enforcing ālawā on the general public.. heās about as useful as a CPC course..1 daN is roughly equal to 1 kg so where Mr I AM THE LAW gets his training or supposed facts from he needs a good swift kick in the stones.. and yes the rope hook saga if I start ranting about that Iāll not stop 
complete bloody farce and waste of tax payers money
complete bloody farce and waste of tax payers money
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Russell
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The only copper I know is also full of s**t. Maybe it's an attribute they look for.
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DaveDCB
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Can only count to 3 decimals most likely!
Anyway Iād argue the bales stapped down weight less than 350kg! Blatant 5000kg strap too
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
one N = 0.102kg ...
a KN is 102kgs ....
a newton is a newton whatever comes in front of it -- (WTF is a daN
) ...
so his 350kgs = 3.431 KN or 3,431 Newtons
the straps're good for 49.016KNewtons SAFE working load
to quote an old adage ...... you can't educate pork -- oink oink
a KN is 102kgs ....
a newton is a newton whatever comes in front of it -- (WTF is a daN
) ...so his 350kgs = 3.431 KN or 3,431 Newtons
the straps're good for 49.016KNewtons SAFE working load
to quote an old adage ...... you can't educate pork -- oink oink
GazCro
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Seen something about straps somewhere else and it was explained as follows, 5 ton strap is rated at 5 ton breaking strain so half that for working load so actually 2.5 ton bearing in mind that's pulling in a straight line. The dan rating is for when the strap goes up over and back down an object or load and is the holding down force the strap can generate or something like that, hence straps no good thrown over digger tracks. Thing is if you're securing a 3 ton load onto a trailer its not gonna need held down to stop it jumping up and down you're stopping it move back and forth or side to side.Can only count to 3 decimals most likely!
Anyway Iād argue the bales stapped down weight less than 350kg! Blatant 5000kg strap too
I actually think the dan rating might be the force the ratchet can generate.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
very often it's possible to ratchet down on summat and find it hasn't rolled/slid over properly and t'other side is still loose(r)
got a new one in the box ... will have a look see what the cert label says tomorrow
when i've got, 5, out of interest, I'll set a strap up with a dynamometer and see what direct pull i can exert, by hand, dogging it up as normal ... doubt my 3.5t dyna.s'll break sweat
and you're right Gaz " 5000kg breaking force. Manufactured to EN12195-2: 2001. "
JD450A
Moderattorš¾
The actual realities are I could run round plod all day via abusing.
I've some span set load calculators in the lorry. Long and short depending on bed type (e.g steel, timber, rubber mat) and strap configuration (over the top, single rigged, X....) And there angle the SWL can vary from 0- the breaking point.
We are too keen to pay fines in this country.
One of my jobs this month is to modify my plant trailer to be "strapless" which will involve a point to lock the boom. Beyond that one strap over the superstructure will be fine.
I've some span set load calculators in the lorry. Long and short depending on bed type (e.g steel, timber, rubber mat) and strap configuration (over the top, single rigged, X....) And there angle the SWL can vary from 0- the breaking point.
We are too keen to pay fines in this country.
One of my jobs this month is to modify my plant trailer to be "strapless" which will involve a point to lock the boom. Beyond that one strap over the superstructure will be fine.
Mick-the-fitter
Itās what I do!
daN is some times seen in the lifting gauges of Japanese operator manuals, smaller amounts are similar to kgs but the calculation differs the larger they get, if you use daN for an SWL or WLL be careful to adjust it to Kgs first.one N = 0.102kg ...
a KN is 102kgs ....
a newton is a newton whatever comes in front of it -- (WTF is a daN
so his 350kgs = 3.431 KN or 3,431 Newtons
the straps're good for 49.016KNewtons SAFE working load
to quote an old adage ...... you can't educate pork -- oink oink
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
daN is a decaNewton or 10 newtons or 10.2kgs ... not seen the daN before.... structural calc.s I'm used to all deal in N or KN ..... bit like when the metric system got adopted here .. we ignored Cm.s and had mm.s or M
wonder what twonk decided to resurrect daN to confuse the issue
... and yeh the Japs and Ying Tongs seem to like it as a measurement" Definition: Dekanewton
The SI prefix "deka" represents a factor of 101, or in exponential notation, 1E1.
So 1 dekanewton = 101 newtons.
The definition of a newton is as follows:
In physics, the newton (symbol: N) is the SI unit of force, named after Sir Isaac Newton in recognition of his work on classical mechanics. It was first used around 1904, but not until 1948 was it officially adopted by the General Conference on Weights and Measures (CGPM) as the name for the mks unit of force.
Definition: Kilogram
The deprecated unit kilogram-force (kgf) or kilopond (kp) is the force exerted by one kilogram of mass in standard Earth gravity (defined as exactly 9.80665 m/sĀ²). One kilogram-force is equal to exactly 9.80665 newtons."
Quattromike
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I occasionally use decimetres to calculate the volume of a vessel in litres. Dunno why, it just feels simpler to medaN is a decaNewton or 10 newtons or 10.2kgs ... not seen the daN before.... structural calc.s I'm used to all deal in N or KN ..... bit like when the metric system got adopted here .. we ignored Cm.s and had mm.s or M
wonder what twonk decided to resurrect daN to confuse the issue
" Definition: Dekanewton
The SI prefix "deka" represents a factor of 101, or in exponential notation, 1E1.
So 1 dekanewton = 101 newtons.
The definition of a newton is as follows:
In physics, the newton (symbol: N) is the SI unit of force, named after Sir Isaac Newton in recognition of his work on classical mechanics. It was first used around 1904, but not until 1948 was it officially adopted by the General Conference on Weights and Measures (CGPM) as the name for the mks unit of force.
Definition: Kilogram
The deprecated unit kilogram-force (kgf) or kilopond (kp) is the force exerted by one kilogram of mass in standard Earth gravity (defined as exactly 9.80665 m/sĀ²). One kilogram-force is equal to exactly 9.80665 newtons."
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