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muckyman

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Ok spent all my life in plant but technology baffles me i have a komatsu pc 95 with a immobiliser all i know is you put a fob on a ring in control panel the flashing light stops flashing and you can then turn the key to start but today the flashing light keeps flashing and stops me starting up never been a problem before so wondered if technology minded people know whats wrong its a old machine so cant be too advanced but my my knoledge on it is nill
 

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craig

craig

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Has the fob been near some strong electromagnetic field? Keys left on top of a welder maybe?
 
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muckyman

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Not been near anything to damage it but i didnt know they had batteries in them and looking at it i cant see how it would open to put one in
 
Mick-the-fitter

Mick-the-fitter

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Where is the receptacle? Is it getting wet? You can get replacement receptacle kits just chop the two wires and join them!
 
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muckyman

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No its pretty dry receptacle looks ok but i guess that it not working is a clue
 
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muckyman

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Would anyone know what make it is as there is no name on it
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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Ok spent all my life in plant but technology baffles me i have a komatsu pc 95 with a immobiliser all i know is you put a fob on a ring in control panel the flashing light stops flashing and you can then turn the key to start but today the flashing light keeps flashing and stops me starting up never been a problem before so wondered if technology minded people know whats wrong its a old machine so cant be too advanced but my my knoledge on it is nill
got the exact same thing on my Goldwing ..... and touch wood has never played up .. that said I've not run it in some time now, so who knows. Had the exact same issue with Lil' Jake a few weeks ago and after investigation determined the box of tricks at the other end of yon sensor had succumbed to water ingress and was completely 'upgefucht' ... new one required .... pretty sure that type of fob is the same breed as what I replaced ... have a look back in my thread
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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OK .. looks to be this type of key Kestronics --- Non-Magnetic iButton/Dallas Fob Key ...... https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=Kestronics+Multi+Coloured+Non-Magnetic+iButton/Dallas+Fob+Key&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&_odkw=immobiliser+touch+fob&_osacat=0
need to find an immobiliser manufacturer who uses / used 'em ...... something in the back of my mind is telling me the Wing is fitted with a Cobra system

here's a new sensor https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111826484047?hash=item1a0960bb4f:g:Oq0AAOSwfpVZFDYe
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
right ... just found me 'Wing keys and ....... it's a Datatool system ... the 'Wing is '99 and this was apparently fitted new by Lings in Norwich
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and an old one at that ... all the newer ones have a remote arming fob ..... might be worth a punt for the money this bloke's asking
 
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muckyman

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Thankyou so much for finding that i looked and came up with nothing like it and having no name on it does not help,it may strain the the old grey matter fitting it
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Thankyou so much for finding that i looked and came up with nothing like it and having no name on it does not help,it may strain the the old grey matter fitting it
well let's hope it's the right/same thing ...
I'd have a look at tracing your sensor back to the box of tricks to see ....
could always wire it back to std ...
When doing Lil' Jake, I could well have wired the immobiliser out, once I'd gotten into it, but having bought a new unit, I went with installing the new one, as it was just as easy/much effort to do.
they're great 'til they give up
one thing I did used to find with the 'Wing was that the sensor, which lives 'outside' / exposed to the elements, used to get a surface film/crud build up and occasionally needed a bit of a fettle to get it to sense the key .. never failed to sense eventually though.
although that link I put up for the new / old stock unit is for a bike, I can't see as a little cunning couldn't make it work ... they are after all just a box of tricks to kill X number of circuits to prevent unauthorised starting, energised/authorised by the fob
let us know how you get on (y)
 
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