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RPA Media

RPA Media

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Evening Ladies and Gents,
I'm Paul, work for myself producing pictures and things like that for a few magazines such as Earthmovers, UK Plant Ops and Demolition and Dismantling. Also known as RPA Media....
 
JD450A

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Evening Ladies and Gents,
I'm Paul, work for myself producing pictures and things like that for a few magazines such as Earthmovers

Good, find that Graham Black Idiot that has recently made a fool out of himself by making a daft comment about a hymac 580 and tell him I no longer purchase earthmovers.

The good news for yourself is I'm now subscribed to UK plant Op's. and I do like your work Mr Argent, ever the professional.
 
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Komatsu

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Good, find that Graham Black Idiot that has recently made a fool out of himself by making a daft comment about a hymac 580 and tell him I no longer purchase earthmovers.
Rory, I think that you’ve completely missed the point Graham was making
 
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Cheers Rory, I will always try and bring an unbiased view to whatever product I write about and for whichever publication. As I have said to many, I can only report on the information given to me at the time of my visit. Not seen the quote regarding the 580 though.
 
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Rory, I think that you’ve completely missed the point Graham was making

Unfortunately I'm not sure there was a point Ollie, Perhaps he's trying to say there will still be those going out for nothing with older kit and they will be minimum wage cowboys? Regardless can't see how it was said with informed views and good humour and if your trying to write a paragraph on what you deem the future then perhaps it's worth remembering that there are still many that feel the safety issues on sites cannot be helped by piling more and more Tech or features on a machine.... All I know is I'm not the only person who has read the salesman's (And he is a salesman, not a man from the industry....) waffle and decided they can't be bothered with earthmovers anymore.

There are also other journalists in earthmovers..... another one hasn't impressed me either. but that's another story.
 
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Komatsu

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The point he was making was that, that the way the industry is going, the machines are getting more adavanced and more technical, that in turn will end up been the standard that will be expected when you ring up to hire a machine etc, a bit like when then first extra-dig got rolled out on the back of a 3cx or when Q-hitches first came onto the market, yes, we can manage without them, and yes we’ve done it/and still can do it without them, but, it takes longer to do. That’s not a problem, but the flip side of that coin is, that if your losing a couple of hours a day changing attachments and having to have an engineer on site full time, marking out etc,etc, that comes off your bottom line, which in today’s market, with margins been tighter than they’ve ever been, a man on a machine who is experienced to be able to use a tilty and GPS, is worth more than a man who isn’t, that’s all, I really don’t believe it was a dig at the old school ways of working, just used as an example of the situation we find are selfs in.
As for piling more stuff in a machine, I totally agree with you, it’s getting to the stage where you can’t see the wood for the trees, and only last week, me and the old man where asked to give are thoughts on the matter.
I think CAT are the only ones who seem to be setting the standard at the moment, with everything done through the monitor, freeing up valuable visabitlty on the windows. Farmers have been doing this for years, and have everything on one monitor, so I don’t see any reason why all machine manufactures can’t do the same, I think JCB really dropped the ball with there new Xsreies machine, by not including it.
 
JD450A

JD450A

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The point he was making was that, that the way the industry is going, the machines are getting more adavanced and more technical, that in turn will end up been the standard that will be expected when you ring up to hire a machine etc, a bit like when then first extra-dig got rolled out on the back of a 3cx or when Q-hitches first came onto the market, yes, we can manage without them, and yes we’ve done it/and still can do it without them, but, it takes longer to do. That’s not a problem, but the flip side of that coin is, that if your losing a couple of hours a day changing attachments and having to have an engineer on site full time, marking out etc,etc, that comes off your bottom line, which in today’s market, with margins been tighter than they’ve ever been, a man on a machine who is experienced to be able to use a tilty and GPS, is worth more than a man who isn’t, that’s all, I really don’t believe it was a dig at the old school ways of working, just used as an example of the situation we find are selfs in.
As for piling more stuff in a machine, I totally agree with you, it’s getting to the stage where you can’t see the wood for the trees, and only last week, me and the old man where asked to give are thoughts on the matter.
I think CAT are the only ones who seem to be setting the standard at the moment, with everything done through the monitor, freeing up valuable visabitlty on the windows. Farmers have been doing this for years, and have everything on one monitor, so I don’t see any reason why all machine manufactures can’t do the same, I think JCB really dropped the ball with there new Xsreies machine, by not including it.
I for one don't envisage the day that all the nonsense is required personally. We have seen the rise and fall of a lot of tech heralded as the be all and end all by shrewd hire managers looking to supply a machine that is only available in that spec from there company.

Fully agree r.e standardised systems. BUT lower cost basic equipment will never vanish. Certainly not in my lifetime.
 
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Komatsu

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I agree with you there Rory, but these advancements are starting to filter down down, and there are a lot of house builders for example, who are starting to see the benefits of more or less having one machine that can do everything, therefore saving money....there has been the rise of fall of certain things I’m sure, but, with the stuff that is still around, those drivers, who have been trained, and can use that equipment, they are the ones on a premium rate, which was what your original discussion was about.
Your right, lower cost machines won’t vanish, but what you will start to see is, higher spec’d machines going through the auctions, the bounus there is that you don’t really get any more for a machine if got a prolec etc, etc on, so that’s a bit of a win win for the buyer😀 even started to see 2 or 3 nice, fully loaded machines(no GPS, just tilty, prolec, height and slew restrictor etc) go through Eruo over the last 18 months, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens over the next 5/6 years.
 
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