Hello from the sunny south of uk

[RigidHauler]

Hi everyone. Glad ive found this forum and hoping to get to know everyone soon.

Currently driving 26t bevertail moving dumpers diggers and such nothing bigger then 9t. But been given the opportunity to move some bigger bits of kit using a bigger truck and not sure how to do it. So any advice you can give, especially for moving 13t diggers and there buckets with no blade, that would be a massive help lol.

Cheers guys and girls

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Hi everyone. Glad ive found this forum and hoping to get to know everyone soon.

Currently driving 26t bevertail moving dumpers diggers and such nothing bigger then 9t. But been given the opportunity to move some bigger bits of kit using a bigger truck and not sure how to do it. So any advice you can give, especially for moving 13t diggers and there buckets with no blade, that would be a massive help lol.

Cheers guys and girls

Either an 8 wheeler or a drag on the back of a 6 wheeler I guess, if not wanting to run an artic. It’s something I’m considering myself. Worth noting that current 13 tonners are almost all much heavier - 16-18 tonnes isn’t unusual.

 

[Smiffy]

Hi everyone. Glad ive found this forum and hoping to get to know everyone soon.

Currently driving 26t bevertail moving dumpers diggers and such nothing bigger then 9t. But been given the opportunity to move some bigger bits of kit using a bigger truck and not sure how to do it. So any advice you can give, especially for moving 13t diggers and there buckets with no blade, that would be a massive help lol.

Cheers guys and girls

Do you mean in terms of loading up the buckets ? Or securing them ?
As @Monkeybusiness says it is a bit of a stretch to get them on a 6 wheeler. Some of the old ones would go with a couple of buckets. Definitely can't move anything zero tailswing.
The other thing to note is that getting the axle loadings right with a 13t machine on a 6 wheeler is very difficult. Especially if they have a 6 or 7 t front axle. To get the machine far enough back down the bed to get the weight of the front axle leaves the boom stuck to far out the back

 

[HuntingHicap]

Not many (if any) 13ts that are legal on a 26t. We only move on 32t, in terms of what to look out for, obviously a 13t is a lot bigger than an 8t when loading, you will likely be slightly overhanging both sides of the truck. I have loaded and unloaded a fair few, often do it for drivers if they are nervous or the weathers rough etc.
If your machine is say a foot wider than the truck bed, just keep an eye on one side whilst going up, make sure you keep it straight and only the 6" overhanging, the other side will look after itself. A lot easier to concentrate that way.
With regard to buckets and a blade, I guess you mean not being able to pinch the spare buckets between the grader and the blade when loading? There's no right and wrong that I am aware of, most drivers have their own way. If you have a bulk bucket with teeth going out have that on the machine and pick the others up with the teeth through the pins, however some companies might not like that. Worth having a 4 or 5 foot drop chain and loading them either before or after the machine. Obviously if you have space its easier to load them before, then you're not rocking around all over the place on the back of the truck.
Bear in mind a 13t is a lot on a rigid, its a lot more unforgiving if you don't put your ramp props down properly you'll bend them, if you dont drop the air out of the suspension its going to be very wobbly! If you are struggling to climb the ramps in the wet with steel tracks, either back on and push yourself with the bucket, or put a chain with plenty of slack in it from side to side of the bed behind the cab and pull yourself up with that.
I have loaded a fair bit of kit on lorries of all sizes, from remote control crushers on artics to track dumpers up ramps onto a tar body 18t, a 13t is a long way up in the air on a 32t.
Take your time and keep the revs down. Theres a few clips out there of people slewing too fast or jerkily and throwing themselves off the side. if you think it might be going wrong, stop, take it back off and start again.

 

[HuntingHicap]

Usually 32ts are running bigger wheels and tyres than a 26t, to carry the weight, this makes them a fair bit higher than a 26t.

 

[Smiffy]

Not many (if any) 13ts that are legal on a 26t. We only move on 32t, in terms of what to look out for, obviously a 13t is a lot bigger than an 8t when loading, you will likely be slightly overhanging both sides of the truck. I have loaded and unloaded a fair few, often do it for drivers if they are nervous or the weathers rough etc.
If your machine is say a foot wider than the truck bed, just keep an eye on one side whilst going up, make sure you keep it straight and only the 6" overhanging, the other side will look after itself. A lot easier to concentrate that way.
With regard to buckets and a blade, I guess you mean not being able to pinch the spare buckets between the grader and the blade when loading? There's no right and wrong that I am aware of, most drivers have their own way. If you have a bulk bucket with teeth going out have that on the machine and pick the others up with the teeth through the pins, however some companies might not like that. Worth having a 4 or 5 foot drop chain and loading them either before or after the machine. Obviously if you have space its easier to load them before, then you're not rocking around all over the place on the back of the truck.
Bear in mind a 13t is a lot on a rigid, its a lot more unforgiving if you don't put your ramp props down properly you'll bend them, if you dont drop the air out of the suspension its going to be very wobbly! If you are struggling to climb the ramps in the wet with steel tracks, either back on and push yourself with the bucket, or put a chain with plenty of slack in it from side to side of the bed behind the cab and pull yourself up with that.
I have loaded a fair bit of kit on lorries of all sizes, from remote control crushers on artics to track dumpers up ramps onto a tar body 18t, a 13t is a long way up in the air on a 32t.
Take your time and keep the revs down. Theres a few clips out there of people slewing too fast or jerkily and throwing themselves off the side. if you think it might be going wrong, stop, take it back off and start again.

My preference was always to chain the machine down before slewing around or lifting things whilst on the bed and not unchain until lifting and slewing is done. As this seems to be where the machines slide off

Usually 32ts are running bigger wheels and tyres than a 26t, to carry the weight, this makes them a fair bit higher than a 26t.

I think it's coppards that had a 32t machine with supper be singles on the front and low profile tyres on the back and a kink in the bed about 1.5m from the headboard to accommodate the different size wheels

 

[Gecko]

Cheers guys and girls

There are girls here?

 

[RigidHauler]

Do you mean in terms of loading up the buckets ? Or securing them ?
As @Monkeybusiness says it is a bit of a stretch to get them on a 6 wheeler. Some of the old ones would go with a couple of buckets. Definitely can't move anything zero tailswing.
The other thing to note is that getting the axle loadings right with a 13t machine on a 6 wheeler is very difficult. Especially if they have a 6 or 7 t front axle. To get the machine far enough back down the bed to get the weight of the front axle leaves the boom stuck to far out the back

So I dont think I was very clear. I will be moving up from a 26t to a 32t 8 wheeler.
And yeah im trying to work out what to do with the buckets. Like you said I cant pick them between the blade and the grader, so where do I put them on the bed? My thoughts was get the buckets near the bed, put the digger on and then once ive chained the digger on and made sure air is dropped, then pick them up and place them by the ramps?

Not many (if any) 13ts that are legal on a 26t. We only move on 32t, in terms of what to look out for, obviously a 13t is a lot bigger than an 8t when loading, you will likely be slightly overhanging both sides of the truck. I have loaded and unloaded a fair few, often do it for drivers if they are nervous or the weathers rough etc.
If your machine is say a foot wider than the truck bed, just keep an eye on one side whilst going up, make sure you keep it straight and only the 6" overhanging, the other side will look after itself. A lot easier to concentrate that way.
With regard to buckets and a blade, I guess you mean not being able to pinch the spare buckets between the grader and the blade when loading? There's no right and wrong that I am aware of, most drivers have their own way. If you have a bulk bucket with teeth going out have that on the machine and pick the others up with the teeth through the pins, however some companies might not like that. Worth having a 4 or 5 foot drop chain and loading them either before or after the machine. Obviously if you have space its easier to load them before, then you're not rocking around all over the place on the back of the truck.
Bear in mind a 13t is a lot on a rigid, its a lot more unforgiving if you don't put your ramp props down properly you'll bend them, if you dont drop the air out of the suspension its going to be very wobbly! If you are struggling to climb the ramps in the wet with steel tracks, either back on and push yourself with the bucket, or put a chain with plenty of slack in it from side to side of the bed behind the cab and pull yourself up with that.
I have loaded a fair bit of kit on lorries of all sizes, from remote control crushers on artics to track dumpers up ramps onto a tar body 18t, a 13t is a long way up in the air on a 32t.
Take your time and keep the revs down. Theres a few clips out there of people slewing too fast or jerkily and throwing themselves off the side. if you think it might be going wrong, stop, take it back off and start again.

Thanks for the advice ill make sure I keep revs down. Would you suggest chaining the machine up first to stop it sliding before I start moving buckets?

There are girls here?

Maybe.....

 

[Canal Navvy]

There are girls here?

They are getting everywhere, Bristol ports even let one drive a tug (Svitzer really ..... they think the Sun shines there) , there was also that one driving cat 2 STGO, and the one driving the euromach spider and the one who "Winchestered" the Appache !

 

[Smiffy]

So I dont think I was very clear. I will be moving up from a 26t to a 32t 8 wheeler.
And yeah im trying to work out what to do with the buckets. Like you said I cant pick them between the blade and the grader, so where do I put them on the bed? My thoughts was get the buckets near the bed, put the digger on and then once ive chained the digger on and made sure air is dropped, then pick them up and place them by the ramps?

Thanks for the advice ill make sure I keep revs down. Would you suggest chaining the machine up first to stop it sliding before I start moving buckets?

Maybe.....

It depends on what buckets there are and the make of them. Sometimes the teeth of two buckets will fit in the ditcher and you can pick up 3-4 buckets in one go. Sometimes they have ears on the top hat that you can grab with the blade of the ditcher.
Even if neither of these work. I never got a chain out, just lift them individually with the quick hitch. If you use a chain and pick them up as a pack you may as well load them from the floor before you load the machine.
I rarely moved a full pack of buckets as they went in the dumper for trip 2 or 2 of the machines only carried a bulk digging bucket and a 200mm deep dig bucket.

 

[Gecko]

They are getting everywhere,

I'm not objecting, just not seeing a lot of evidence.
Years ago, some of the remote open cut mines in Oz went out of their way to recruit girls to drive the big Cat & Komatsu ore trucks because they found the gearboxes lasted longer.

 

[Vinpetrol]

There are girls here?

They’d need to be thick skinned

 

[V8Druid]

There are girls here?

pretty sure we've had one or two register, but can't recall more than the odd post --- sooooooooooome time ago

 

[V8Druid]

They are getting everywhere, Bristol ports even let one drive a tug (Svitzer really ..... they think the Sun shines there) , there was also that one driving cat 2 STGO, and the one driving the euromach spider and the one who "Winchestered" the Appache !

you mean Calamity Kate ... she's burgered off to the sates

 

[Canal Navvy]

I'm not objecting, just not seeing a lot of evidence.
Years ago, some of the remote open cut mines in Oz went out of their way to recruit girls to drive the big Cat & Komatsu ore trucks because they found the gearboxes lasted longer.

The Aus girls being favoured to operate very expensive to repair machines is something I often quote .......
... usually goes down like a cup of cold sick

 

[Canal Navvy]

you mean Calamity Kate ... she's burgered off to the sates

Yup, never watched any of her stuff until recently and that was only after the tube thought that I might be interested in watching the first female tug boat captain in the country , like both of their relaxed styles