Government proposal to change trailer licensing regulations.

[Left hooker]

I can`t see them de-regulating small trucks, possabily the opposite, they are bringing 2.5t - 3.5t vehicles under o licences if used for hire and reward and aboard. First stepping stones to more

We now will be running international regs that basically mirror EU rules
Bringing in the smaller vehicles on to o license hopefully will clampdown on fly tippers as gives police / dvsa power to seize rogue van drivers

 

[JD450A]

Whilst we’re at it, lets bring back the good old British Ministry system!

Remember MAFF?

MAFF? Massive Apocalyptic Fuckups during Foot&mouth

 

[Brendan]

Would have been better changing 3.5t to the 7.5t license or at least giving those who paid for the b and e the upgrade.

The downside of the b and e for everyone will mean a lack of employment for the trainer's or them having to drop down to do car license or having to train to move to 7.5t and above but again no examiners for the trainers

 

[craig]

We now will be running international regs that basically mirror EU rules
Bringing in the smaller vehicles on to o license hopefully will clampdown on fly tippers as gives police / dvsa power to seize rogue van drivers

Its proposed only for hire and reward operators traveling abroad, domestic use and non hire and reward will still be on domestic drivers hours rules.

 

[Left hooker]

Its proposed only for hire and reward operators traveling abroad, domestic use and non hire and reward will still be on domestic drivers hours rules.

Pikeys doing clearances and drives and tree cutting dumping every layby and back road can now be tugged as reward or hire

 

[6feetdown]

Pikeys doing clearances and drives and tree cutting dumping every layby and back road can now be tugged as reward or hire

But will they?

 

[craig]

Pikeys doing clearances and drives and tree cutting dumping every layby and back road can now be tugged as reward or hire

Hire and reward within the UK up to 3.5t wont come under these O licence changes (yet)
The fly tippers dont get stopped now, as much as I would like to see this change, I cant see it happening

 

[Smiffy]

Pikeys doing clearances and drives and tree cutting dumping every layby and back road can now be tugged as reward or hire

They can do them on waste transfer rules as it is, but they don't and the police are to scared of them.

 

[GazCro]

There won't be the increase in accidents or clueless drivers with trailers you maybe expect. I bet it's surprising how many tow on a regular basis that haven't passed a test and and aren't old enough not to need one. About 15 years ago farm lads could get a grant up here to pay towards trailer training and test, I don't think it was done as much to enable them to tow but just to help make them legal.

 

[6feetdown]

 

[6feetdown]

Taken from sly news no reversing element

 

[craig]

Taken from sly news no reversing element

The reversing element will be tested/signed off by the driving instructor.
A lot of truck training places have a mock testing area, some already have an approved training area, that the DLVA tester comes too to do the test.

 

[Smiffy]

There won't be the increase in accidents or clueless drivers with trailers you maybe expect. I bet it's surprising how many tow on a regular basis that haven't passed a test and and aren't old enough not to need one. About 15 years ago farm lads could get a grant up here to pay towards trailer training and test, I don't think it was done as much to enable them to tow but just to help make them legal.

The way people are acting on Facebook you would think that everyone with a car in the UK is going to rush out and buy the biggest ifor made.
In reality the people that need to tow are already towing. So if there are any effects it will be a few years down the line.
I do think they should have kept it as there is the caravan and tip trailer brigade who are clueless at the best of times but I doubt we will all make up on the 20th to gridlocked chaos and rows of upturned trailers

 

[Giles]

Place next to our job old go kart track do bike training and trailer training only. Two new d max pickups and box trailers lettered up more than half their business gone overnight I’d say. Might see if they want to sell a box trailer.

I towed for many years without one (16 maybe), only when I got new mrs did she make me do test to go to Cornwall with 27’ caravan. (I’d been year before with it) £500 and a day out my life. Only got 1 minor in test for s**t gear change in trainers transit.

nothing useful in training about loads, weight distribution or strapping etc just hooking up and inspection.

 

[V8Druid]

Mixed thoughts on it, in a way letting any pleb tow 3.5t is a mistake but on the other hand allowing people to do the articulated straight off is better than two tests but in a way it's safer on the roads if people have had to do non articulated first, as at least they would have had some experience but letting 18 year olds jump straight to hgv is plain stupid, majority you wouldn't trust with a Micra let alone 25m of wagon and trailer.

The problem with lack of drivers is simple, it's down to pay a few have left due to money and those who have considered returning have seen the hours and pay and stayed in what ever job they were doing, flooding the market with a lot of young drivers isn't going to help with wages and will be a way for the companies to keep wages down

STBC but I understood the LGV requirement was still 21, with a fixed period of experience before being able apply for LGV provo. license ??? @JD450A ??

 

[V8Druid]

11t then you can tow a trailer

12t with the right trailer

 

[craig]

STBC but I understood the LGV requirement was still 21, with a fixed period of experience before being able apply for LGV provo. license ??? @JD450A ??

18, and they can apply for lgv provisional.

 

[craig]

18, and they can apply for lgv provisional.

They could be 21 by the time they get the licence back from Swansea, the way they are shaping at the minute.

 

[V8Druid]

no amount of training will replace practise and aptitude when it comes to towing a trailer .... end of - if they ain't got it, they ain't got it

 

[V8Druid]

18, and they can apply for lgv provisional.

since when ???? OMG! .... as said - a lot can't drive a ****ing micra ....... and shouldn't be in charge of a pair of roller skates