Fuel Prices

[craig]

The more they jump up and down the faster full robotic trains be here...

I would imagine, it one part of the transport system that would be one of the easiest to make driverless

 

[Smiffy]

The more they jump up and down the faster full robotic trains be here...

All the time they keep striking. Trains will not be a viable alternative for most.
Therefore they will remain expensive. And further be a non viable alternative. I think public transport is the single biggest obstacle of reducing emissions. How can they ever stop people using the car without an alternative. And tbh the staff seem to account for most the problems.be it managers being inefficient and wasteful or the drivers throwing a spanner in the works every five minutes

 

[Smiffy]

I would imagine, it one part of the transport system that would be one of the easiest to make driverless

The underground in Paris is fully automated and it's great. It still runs in some capacity during the strikes and you can look out the front window which is cool

 

[Maxus]

I think a big problem in this country is difficulties sacking people, not to mention no accountability.

 

[GazCro]

I think a big problem in this country is difficulties sacking people, not to mention no accountability.

Snowflakes, woke generation etc only gonna get worse.

 

[Quattromike]

Train go forward
Train go backward
Doors open
Doors closed

Can’t imagine there is many more buttons?

Do they not have to steer it round the corners and keep it between the grass

 

[Furniss]

I think a big problem in this country is difficulties sacking people, not to mention no accountability.

Honestly I dont think its as bad as all that over there to get shut....try sacking someone in France that's why lots won't employ ( me included) "France is famous for its employment law and firing an employee is notoriously difficult. French workers are far more protected than in most other countries and dismissals are time consuming and costly for employees"

If someone in France gets a" Contrat à Durée Indéterminée" seems like it's happy days because it's almost impossible to get sacked even if they are a complete slacker.
Seems every consecutive government promises to make it easier for employers and it never happens.

 

[V8Druid]

Honestly I dont think its as bad as all that over there to get shut....try sacking someone in France that's why lots won't employ ( me included) "France is famous for its employment law and firing an employee is notoriously difficult. French workers are far more protected than in most other countries and dismissals are time consuming and costly for employees"

If someone in France gets a" Contrat à Durée Indéterminée" seems like it's happy days because it's almost impossible to get sacked even if they are a complete slacker.
Seems every consecutive government promises to make it easier for employers and it never happens.

if they ain't earning their corn, it should be every employer's right to be rid ... end of ..... all comes back around to 'the entitled' mindset ... whole world needs a ****ing good shake up

 

[Lynchy]

Because they leech off threatening the rest of society rather than just voting with their feet and doing something better paid if they think £60k isn't enough for sitting down all day pressing a button.

Get that from the daily Mail ?

 

[Maxus]

if they ain't earning their corn, it should be every employer's right to be rid ... end of ..... all comes back around to 'the entitled' mindset ... whole world needs a ****ing good shake up

Just talking to a butcher... grain shortage coupled with electricity going up by over double. Going to be apocalyptic shake up soon enough i would predict.

 

[V8Druid]

Just talking to a butcher... grain shortage coupled with electricity going up by over double. Going to be apocalyptic shake up soon enough i would predict.

be nice to think it true and that it starts from the top down ..... but really?? .... more chance of going clubbing with the pope

 

[TiltyShaun]

I was talking to one of the locals last week that is a platform controller at our local station. 10 people are employed in this position to cover the shifts, sometimes you need more than one. 6 are on long term sick leave, come in for 8 weeks then go off sick for 6 months with stress.
He said the sooner that someone can invent a blood test to diagnose stress the whole of the public sector will be reformed!!

 

[diggerjones]

Chap i was working with said his neighbour works at jaguar landrover at the Wirral i guess. Said he's not been in since covid. 2 years at home on full pay

 

[Lynchy]

Somebody once said something to me,that some one told them,n I didn't believe that either

 

[Maxus]

be nice to think it true and that it starts from the top down ..... but really?? .... more chance of going clubbing with the pope

I would say almost undoubtedly civilisation will collapse, its just a question of when.. In the modern era we are so reliant on such fragile and complex systems I think it's possible that things could downhill fast soon. I'm desperately trying to think how to bring this conversation back around to fuel prices!

 

[Lancs Lad]

I would say almost undoubtedly civilisation will collapse, its just a question of when.. In the modern era we are so reliant on such fragile and complex systems I think it's possible that things could downhill fast soon. I'm desperately trying to think how to bring this conversation back around to fuel prices!

Even with the daft fuel prices it's still nigh on twice the price to get train to Surrey for me than driving my not exactly economical V6.

 

[Smiffy]

Even with the daft fuel prices it's still nigh on twice the price to get train to Surrey for me than driving my not exactly economical V6.

Public transport is a mess in this country. Utterly impossible to use unless you live in a big town.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Public transport is a mess in this country. Utterly impossible to use unless you live in a big town.

Tbf city to city for us it's actually ok. 2 hr10 to Euston from Preston but prices make it a non starter.

 

[Furniss]

Tgv to Paris from town is superb

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Public transport is a mess in this country. Utterly impossible to use unless you live in a big town.

The railways are terrible - incredibly expensive to use and ticket purchasing seems to be intentionally overcomplicated.
There appears to be ridiculous inefficiencies throughout the sector - I hear loads of stories from local lads who work on the rail and it’s bonkers. (I also remember @Lynchy previously posting some mental figures for prices of jobs and wasted shifts etc).
A section of track was replaced near me a couple of weeks ago over a weekend - I watched from a bridge for 10 mins and was surprised how backwards the working practices were. The new track had been laid, and a massive train full of ballast was on the line immediately parallel. Two road railers (and numerous orange-clad shovel-leaners doing bugger all) with big grading buckets on standard quick hitches were digging ballast out of the train and making a meal of spreading it around the new track and sleepers. There was stone everywhere, way more than needed, and tonnes of the stuff left in the train that they couldn’t scoop out! Why they didn’t lay it with a basic stone-cart conveyor setup directly from the train doesn’t make any sense at all to me…