Dumpers - Cab or no Cab

[Storrsy]

I had a couple of months on a 9t cabbed WN in '17 for Alex .. fair play he got the cabbed version specially - it was end of Jan when we started the job .. driest winter spell on record I reckon .. barely lost a day to rain, for months, but 'kin cold ... was nice to be in a warm place, but clearing the windows of frost of a morning was a PITA - good side and rear viz ... front was dire .. went everywhere backwards most of the time .. very close to the edge of a fishing lake and i had no desire to put it in there - was deeeeep ... was on big floaties and fair play it plowed through everything 'til the diffs couldn't doze any more out the way then had to grade to haul way a bit .... very sandy shite and soft as !!
was a great dumper and it never got stuck once .. unlike the 3t jake that replaced it later in the job - stuck first time down the haul and a real temperamental starter ( 3 hrs on the clock when it arrived)
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Was just saying this to a mate the other day. Would always go for a 9 ton if ground is shitty or soft. They seem far better than the 3 or 6t and you don't have to fill them up! I have photographic evidence of a 9t and 6t on the same job I did back in winter and the difference in mess made was astounding!

 

[Storrsy]

We’re just a small setup, we have had the same guys for 10years+, they all know how I like things and work accordingly.. everything is looked after so I’ve no problem with buying decent kit.. I’ve ran old dumpers before, but spending weekends resealing axles/swapping knackard rams/rebuilding newage gearboxes etc isn’t fun anymore!

But how long do they sit on a dumper for any given time. There have been times for sure driving dumpers back and forth the moor in the pissing rain where I've thought how nice to have a cab now but for site work id have thought the lesser visibility and short cycle times would make the cabs less warranted?

 

[Stroppymonkey]

But how long do they sit on a dumper for any given time. There have been times for sure driving dumpers back and forth the moor in the pissing rain where I've thought how nice to have a cab now but for site work id have thought the lesser visibility and short cycle times would make the cabs less warranted?

I did a spell on dumpers in winter when I was young. I can still remember how f****ng cold it wet and miserable it was. If I was paying someone to sit on one I would opt for a cab.
If I was buying one for myself I would go for whatever was cheapest

 

[Storrsy]

I did a spell on dumpers in winter when I was young. I can still remember how f****ng cold it wet and miserable it was. If I was paying someone to sit on one I would opt for a cab.
If I was buying one for myself I would go for whatever was cheapest

I get a sense of euphoria in adverse conditions

 

[Lancs Lad]

I get a sense of euphoria in adverse conditions

Up you come then I've a shed to finish and it's pouring down...I'll happily watch your euphoria

 

[Gunners]

I think unless someone makes you buy a cabbed one its just a pita - more complicated, more to break/replace, Dumper should be the most simple thing possible to cart muck around and clean look after.

And cost no more than £5k

If I was in the market for a bigger dumper, I know I'd be specifying a cab. As I have to drive it, Ill make the job as nice as it can be please!

 

[Grahams]

If you can afford the extra cost I would go for a cabbed version. Ideally with air con.
It will show your men you appreciate them and their comfort. Also assuming you are likely to hang on to it for some time it will future proof against tighter health and safety. Some big companies already only allow cabbed dumpers on site and we all know rules only get tighter rather than using common sense.

 

[Furniss]

I get a sense of euphoria in adverse conditions

thats a real thing

 

[Furniss]

And cost no more than £5k

If I was in the market for a bigger dumper, I know I'd be specifying a cab. As I have to drive it, Ill make the job as nice as it can be please!

i just dont see a dumper as anything other than a necessity that needs to be reliable simple and cough cough 3k @Regy53

 

[Furniss]

And cost no more than £5k

If I was in the market for a bigger dumper, I know I'd be specifying a cab. As I have to drive it, Ill make the job as nice as it can be please!

pfff as a 1 man band getting in and out all day long would soon get old !

 

[T whiting]

I think I'd have a cab but unfortunatly not a current thwaites in either cabbed or cabless.

The cabbed ones loose so much steering lock that there nearly useless unless they have a entire field to turn around in.

The rops+ highchair bar beats you to pieces unless your on a tarmac road.

And neither have enough horsepower due to emissions s**t.

I've not driven any of the other brands latest models but I think I'd give a old terrex dumper a good refurb given choice

 

[DaveDCB]

@T whiting interesting comment on steering lock - I hadn’t envisaged this being a thing? The Thwaites version literally looks like they have just stuck a cab on the mainframe?

Thwaites were 8k more for a cab with ac fyi @Gunners 🫣

 

[Gunners]

@T whiting interesting comment on steering lock - I hadn’t envisaged this being a thing? The Thwaites version literally looks like they have just stuck a cab on the mainframe?

Thwaites were 8k more for a cab with ac fyi @Gunners 🫣

And thats £8k on top of an already inflated price for the standard machine!
Had prices well north of £20k for a 3t straight tip earlier this year. When you can hire them for £130/week its just not worth owning one.
@T whiting has a good point here. Find a pre 2018 Terex with the full fat 444 engine in - before they nuked them to 75hp. And spend some money refurbing it. Even with the cost of the best raincoat you can buy for your operator - its going to be a better machine for half the cost.

 

[Maxus]

Speaking of dumpers, if you were to own one, what configuration would you go for beyond cab/no cab? I've seen you can get swivel hi tip, I imagine you can't really beat that. I think as a minimum i would want swivel tip. I have always prefered owning gear, and I hate paying tax! Will probably get a dumper in the next year or two - reading this thread, probably a terex

 

[V8Druid]

pfff as a 1 man band getting in and out all day long would soon get old !

that WN was a POP .. leave the doors pinned back and no worse than my 6t Thwaites

 

[6feetdown]

And thats £8k on top of an already inflated price for the standard machine!
Had prices well north of £20k for a 3t straight tip earlier this year. When you can hire them for £130/week its just not worth owning one.
@T whiting has a good point here. Find a pre 2018 Terex with the full fat 444 engine in - before they nuked them to 75hp. And spend some money refurbing it. Even with the cost of the best raincoat you can buy for your operator - its going to be a better machine for half the cost.

That's the weird thing I've always found last time I had a price on a 3t swivel it was 23k I think, like you said so cheap to hire you'd have to have a lot of work to buy new

 

[hiluxman]

Speaking of dumpers, if you were to own one, what configuration would you go for beyond cab/no cab? I've seen you can get swivel hi tip, I imagine you can't really beat that. I think as a minimum i would want swivel tip. I have always prefered owning gear, and I hate paying tax! Will probably get a dumper in the next year or two - reading this thread, probably a terex

Depends on the size of the dumper your talking about.

I've a 1.5t hi-swivel thwaites. Was looking for one for ages but all mental money with them been odd ball.....but super handy over the usual 1t hi tip.