Dump trailer

[Keif]

I just got this thing. So far so good, will really put it to the test next week.

Ramps, tarp, barn door/spreader gate combo door. Haven't used the ramps just been loading unloading using bucket/blade to lift machine and load itself.

 

[Routy56]

I just got this thing. So far so good, will really put it to the test next week. View attachment 24664View attachment 24665
Ramps, tarp, barn door/spreader gate combo door. Haven't used the ramps just been loading unloading using bucket/blade to lift machine and load itself.

That looks a handy bit of kit. The thing is you can arrive on site with the excavator and then use the trailer to move material.

Used mine last week in the same way to shift about 30T of excavated material

It's often a win win for you and the customer

 

[Russell]

How much can you yanks tow on a standard car license?

 

[Keif]

How much can you yanks tow on a standard car license?

26000lbs before needing a CDL. My truck is rated at 10,000lbs towing capacity, trailer is max weight is something like 9,900lbs with a little over 7000lbs of that payload.

That looks a handy bit of kit. The thing is you can arrive on site with the excavator and then use the trailer to move material.
View attachment 24666
Used mine last week in the same way to shift about 30T of excavated material
View attachment 24667
It's often a win win for you and the customer

Awesome, that's my plan also!

 

[Brendan]

Just under 3.2t payload, that's handy some times think our smaller vehicle rules should be relaxed, but with the way idiots brag about being 2 or 3t over weight it would just be the same s**t going on but with much heavier weights

 

[Smiffy]

Just under 3.2t payload, that's handy some times think our smaller vehicle rules should be relaxed, but with the way idiots brag about being 2 or 3t over weight it would just be the same s**t going on but with much heavier weights

Yeah but you would hope as a percentage it would be better
I would far rather an 8 wheeler 2 tonne overloaded than a transit
Tbh I think the biggest problem is tachos
If they made tacho use exempt if the drivers main job isn't driving or if they drive less than 3hrs a day then surely running lorrys would become an easier option as currently I don't think you could run a lorry doing groundworks or tree work or the like and have 100% confidence in your tachos
Everything else is rather easy to meet the expectations such as MOT

 

[Lancs Lad]

Yeah but you would hope as a percentage it would be better
I would far rather an 8 wheeler 2 tonne overloaded than a transit
Tbh I think the biggest problem is tachos
If they made tacho use exempt if the drivers main job isn't driving or if they drive less than 3hrs a day then surely running lorrys would become an easier option as currently I don't think you could run a lorry doing groundworks or tree work or the like and have 100% confidence in your tachos
Everything else is rather easy to meet the expectations such as MOT

Agree...USA weights towing seem totally sensible always jealous when I see their setups..this stupid situation where a van can hardly carry a tonne and yet pickups are towing 3.5t all day long is daft surely make sense to make it easier to run say up to 12t on duff license and tacho rules? So proper brakes and tests etc?....food for thought all hours were called European drivers hours? Will it change now?

 

[Brendan]

Agree...USA weights towing seem totally sensible always jealous when I see their setups..this stupid situation where a van can hardly carry a tonne and yet pickups are towing 3.5t all day long is daft surely make sense to make it easier to run say up to 12t on duff license and tacho rules? So proper brakes and tests etc?....food for thought all hours were called European drivers hours? Will it change now?

The problem is the transits And other vans aren't carrying a ton, it's north of 2t. Have seen a few police posts pulling 3.5t vehicles north of 5t. The trailer situation is just as bad and its the "professional" tow people who are the worst. Towing at 60mph on motorway and a road and at least three pickups with car transporters passed me like I was standing still. Then on top of that there is clowns towing in excess of 1t more than the max and some brainiac on the paving group a while back was bragging and showing pics of his 3.5t trailer at over 8t

 

[Lancs Lad]

The problem is the transits And other vans aren't carrying a ton, it's north of 2t. Have seen a few police posts pulling 3.5t vehicles north of 5t. The trailer situation is just as bad and its the "professional" tow people who are the worst. Towing at 60mph on motorway and a road and at least three pickups with car transporters passed me like I was standing still. Then on top of that there is clowns towing in excess of 1t more than the max and some brainiac on the paving group a while back was bragging and showing pics of his 3.5t trailer at over 8t

Seen a lot of them car transporters about atm...had similar .
One bloke on M6 last week was doing well over 80 and in 3rd lane some of time...flashed him as tried to give benefit of doubt that he'd forgotten...but I imagine if he'd had a bad prang and towing fir work he'd have book lobbed at him..?

 

[Russell]

I want to move to America, no trump now either.

 

[Lancs Lad]

I want to move to America, no trump now either.

No your right they've nothing now...

 

[craig]

@Keif
Do you have to have your trailers tested over there?

Looking at the drawbar, those stickers 5 and 22, guessing it is 12 months old in. 5th month 2022, and due a test or inspection

 

[Keif]

@Keif
Do you have to have your trailers tested over there?
View attachment 24680
Looking at the drawbar, those stickers 5 and 22, guessing it is 12 months old in. 5th month 2022, and due a test or inspection

It's state dependent. Here in VA trailers over 5x10ft have to have a yearly state inspection. They inspected mine the day I picked it up so I'll need to do it again in May next year.

3 miles away in NC trailers don't require a state inspection and their vehicle inspection is much more lax.

 

[craig]

It's state dependent. Here in VA trailers over 5x10ft have to have a yearly state inspection. They inspected mine the day I picked it up so I'll need to do it again in May next year.

3 miles away in NC trailers don't require a state inspection and their vehicle inspection is much more lax.

Thanks for the reply
Every now and then, talk of trailer testing comes up here but nothing come of it yet.

 

[V8Druid]

26000lbs before needing a CDL. My truck is rated at 10,000lbs towing capacity, trailer is max weight is something like 9,900lbs with a little over 7000lbs of that payload.

Awesome, that's my plan also!

13 federal tons is a decent load .... and 5 fed. tons towing is a decent, usable figure .... still 11,800kgs / 4540kgs translated to our shores ... way better than we can ever hope to see ..... what's your truck @Keif and how does it handle the loading the draw bar exerts on it with the wheels so far back on your trailer ?

 

[AusDave]

Yeah, glad I'm not in the UK with my truck. Worst I have to deal with in my Australian state is an annual roadworthy inspection. Still a bit of an imposition as many other states don't even require this! Just had to get a Medium Rigid endorsement on my licence to drive it.
Useful specs for my Hino truck pictured, 15 tonnes GVM, 7 tonnes max legal in the tipper, over 10m reach with the crane where it will lift over 400kg, 2-3tonnes lift with the crane close in. Can tow 9 tonnes as well.
For my work the combination of a tipper and crane is fantastic, I'd never have a truck without this setup. With a big 8 litre turbo diesel motor it motors quietly on the highway with very little difference laden or empty.

 

[Keif]

13 federal tons is a decent load .... and 5 fed. tons towing is a decent, usable figure .... still 11,800kgs / 4540kgs translated to our shores ... way better than we can ever hope to see ..... what's your truck @Keif and how does it handle the loading the draw bar exerts on it with the wheels so far back on your trailer ?

I haven't moved the machine with it yet, but the sag on truck looks the same as when using my 16ft equipment trailer.

 

[V8Druid]

Yeah, glad I'm not in the UK with my truck. Worst I have to deal with in my Australian state is an annual roadworthy inspection. Still a bit of an imposition as many other states don't even require this! Just had to get a Medium Rigid endorsement on my licence to drive it.
Useful specs for my Hino truck pictured, 15 tonnes GVM, 7 tonnes max legal in the tipper, over 10m reach with the crane where it will lift over 400kg, 2-3tonnes lift with the crane close in. Can tow 9 tonnes as well.
For my work the combination of a tipper and crane is fantastic, I'd never have a truck without this setup. With a big 8 litre turbo diesel motor it motors quietly on the highway with very little difference laden or empty.

love the tailboard set up on that Dave ... very clever hinge that

 

[V8Druid]

I haven't moved the machine with it yet, but the sag on truck looks the same as when using my 16ft equipment trailer.

must be some springs on the back of you truck Keif

 

[Keif]

must be some springs on the back of you truck Keif

Yeah, when new it was modified to be a fleet work truck for some company. Has stiffer springs, sway control, trans cooler, trans temp gauge on cluster, the cargo box over the truck bed and a bare bones interior. Hauled everything I've put behind it with no problems, I do live in a very flat area though.