Coronavirus

[GazCro]

Right correct me if I'm wrong.

The Vaccine is effectively a battleplan that is injected into your bloodstream.... Your body reads said plan and thus is ready to fight.

The second injection is the same just to reinforce the issue and peak the efficency.... hence the gap.

The third jabby jab? WTF is it actually doing? I understand the flu jab is changed every year but pricking everyone with the same agent repeatedly?

For want of a better way of putting it you're not far off. The thing I dont get is that each variant seems a step further away from the original strain which the vaccines are all developed for. As yet no updated jabs so number 3 will be one of the original jabs (different from you're first 2 as they say this gives it best chance of working). So is there any point in a booster? Although for anyone who had astra zeneca jab I'm told are recommended to have a booster as it loses its effectiveness after 6 months or so anyway. Where early on i knew of people who said "I'm not being part of the experiment" and maybe didn't fully see it from that angle the longer it goes on that's becoming my view.

 

[Maxus]

Exactly zero people have died from 'omicron'. Apparently it is particularly mild and highly transmissible. Surley letting it spread is a
better way of inoculating the entire human race than some dubious 'vaccine'?

 

[Storrsy]

For want of a better way of putting it you're not far off. The thing I dont get is that each variant seems a step further away from the original strain which the vaccines are all developed for. As yet no updated jabs so number 3 will be one of the original jabs (different from you're first 2 as they say this gives it best chance of working). So is there any point in a booster? Although for anyone who had astra zeneca jab I'm told are recommended to have a booster as it loses its effectiveness after 6 months or so anyway. Where early on i knew of people who said "I'm not being part of the experiment" and maybe didn't fully see it from that angle the longer it goes on that's becoming my view.

I always said from the start I'd wait and see how the vaccines did before making up my mind- I was pretty open-minded about it. Whatever your viewpoint on it there's no denying that the goal posts have somewhat changed as the vaccine program has progressed. No mention of boosters required at the start- nor that it was quite so ineffective at preventing spread.
Fine, if they had been honest about it and admitted that it was very much still in the research and development stage. It's the whole "protect others" and " this is our way out of COVID" bullshit thats made me mistrust it all tbh. Yet here we are a year later all walking around with restrictions and masks- it's bollocks

 

[GazCro]

Exactly zero people have died from 'omicron'. Apparently it is particularly mild and highly transmissible. Surley letting it spread is a
better way of inoculating the entire human race than some dubious 'vaccine'?

Letting it spread and letting everyones immune system deal with it is going to be the only way long term. In any case the so called vaccine is only a prime for your immune system so you still need to get it to become immune as far as i can tell. I think the govt are so far in with the vaccine job they can't admit this now so are just carrying on down that route. Its a money spinner for a lot mind so we shouldn't overlook that as a reason to carry on with vaccines.

 

[Maxus]

I think the govt are so far in with the vaccine job they can't admit this now so are just carrying on down that route

Sounds about right.

 

[Storrsy]

Alot of people maintain that the vaccine program is extremely effective- as deaths have declined over the year- this is true but I think there's so many factors at play it's hard to really know what's going on. Indias COVID death rate has also declined over the year yet their vaccinations are only around 25-30 % of the population. Virus could be getting weaker- natural immunity, better hospital treatment for it etc. I'd have thought rather than going in all guns blazing with the vaccinations- it might have been better to take a more cautious approach and leave the young and healthy unvaccinated for a while some so there is something to compare it too, the waters are too muddied now.

 

[TiltyShaun]

It does start to feel a bit ground hog day

 

[Gecko]

Surley letting it spread is a better way of inoculating the entire human race than some dubious 'vaccine'?

That may well be the best way of protecting yourself from the other variants.

 

[Maxus]

I know we are all just repeating ourselves on this thread now, but here is a learned boffin spelling it out.

Either politicians are trying to save their own necks by not admitting the catastrophic error they've made, or, it's a plan for global domination and the enslavement of the human race.

 

[6feetdown]

I know we are all just repeating ourselves on this thread now, but here is a learned boffin spelling it out.

Either politicians are trying to save their own necks by not admitting the catastrophic error they've made, or, it's a plan for global domination and the enslavement of the human race.

Someone talking sense

 

[TiltyShaun]

I know we are all just repeating ourselves on this thread now, but here is a learned boffin spelling it out.

Either politicians are trying to save their own necks by not admitting the catastrophic error they've made, or, it's a plan for global domination and the enslavement of the human race.

Interesting comments at the end regarding Vit D.
I have been on a Vit D and Vit C daily tablet for the last year. Probably cost less than the £15 paid to the staff giving the jab let along the jab as well!!
Wife and daughter both now testing clear and I have still not paid a positive lateral flow test!!

 

[Lynchy]

Freedom of Information request on REG 174 for Pfizer COVID-19 mRNA vaccine (FOI 21-611)

www.gov.uk

 

[Gecko]

Freedom of Information request on REG 174 for Pfizer COVID-19 mRNA vaccine (FOI 21-611)

www.gov.uk

Not sure how to interpret that.
Seems to be a FOI request for information on a letter accusing Pfizer of misinformation. and not information from Pfizer themselves.

• Safety of breast-feeding In your letter you suggest ...
• Question: In case MHRA does (according to the above findings) not amend or withdrawn its current version: please state why and which study supports such reasoning

It seems to be a case of writing a letter and then creating a FOI case asking if a letter was received.

As for the data contained, I'm far from qualified to know if the numbers are good / bad / indifferent.

 

[JD450A]

Not sure how to interpret that.

Interpret it as Wacko's whom are slightly too intelligent to be Giggling away whilst smoking pot.

It's a very long letter that is loaded to look like it contains huge truths, when the reality is it's a load of data that looks iffy when removed from it's actual context.

The big killer for the whole letter is the Gov response - "It should be noted that the distribution of the lipid nanoparticles was measured using a radioactive label (tritium) in a lipid component. The data do not allow a judgment on the distribution of the mRNA component or expression and distribution of the encoded COVID-19 spike protein." If you know what the craic is with Radioactive particles used for medicine the distributions will come as no real surprise nor the reasoning (for those that don't understand, tritium will be put into a small number of particles to allow the spread to be tracked around the body, abit like tipping dye down a drainage system to see where it comes out)

I know we are all just repeating ourselves on this thread now, but here is a learned boffin spelling it out.

Either politicians are trying to save their own necks by not admitting the catastrophic error they've made, or, it's a plan for global domination and the enslavement of the human race.

I dislike GB news as much as I dislike the BBC as they will very much only show there own agenda..... But as i've said many times before I think " politicians are trying to save their own necks by not admitting the catastrophic error they've made". It never was anywhere near as horrendous as they though on day one, but back tracking would reveal it to be the monetary heist of the Ages...... they have all put the CON in Conspiracy!

 

[OBL]

Whichever way you look at the coronavirus response, as a justified course of action or a ridiculous over reaction, the truth is nearly £400 billion of PUBLIC money has found its way into PRIVATE bank accounts…

There is no incentive to draw this thing to a close, did I read that Phizers stock rose by 9 billion when Omicron was announced??

Putin called Omicron the mild easily transmissible mutation “a live vaccine”
Personally I’m inclined to think we should just stop testing and things would return to normal very quickly. (Although the Tory cronies milking the testing contracts may be less keen)

 

[JD450A]

the truth is nearly £400 billion of PUBLIC money has found its way into PRIVATE bank accounts…

Reality is the fact that any of it has found it's way out of the NHS or MOD is appauling.

Take f****ng Sunbelt Rentals..... Not one item they are supplying could not of been sorted by the Royal Engineers and the REME....
Trick and Trace could of been Handled far better by any part of the MOD
Etc.

 

[OBL]

Reality is the fact that any of it has found it's way out of the NHS or MOD is appauling.

Take f****ng Sunbelt Rentals..... Not one item they are supplying could not of been sorted by the Royal Engineers and the REME....
Trick and Trace could of been Handled far better by any part of the MOD
Etc.

The cost of each booster roll out would surely fund a new hospital or two? £20 quid a shot times by 50 million?

It would leave more vaccine supplies for the third world to make the old or the vulnerable safer there, instead of leaving them as a breeding ground for more “super scary” variants that big pharma can then use to con us into another booster roll out!

 

[OBL]

While I’m on (I’ll shut up in a min) it’s interesting watching people’s behavior…

The folk I know that have strong fear based response of feeling threatened by unvaccinated folk and their “selfish” actions are often the first to brim their tanks in the fuel crisis or do a double shop when food is rumored to run short…
All driven by media narrative playing with their fear.

The entitlement to life is also very strong! As an easily punctured bag of red water on a dying planet full of sharp pointy things you’d think every morning you’d wake up feeling lucky to be alive!

The refusal to accept that medical science can’t offer them a silver bullet of a cure or that the vaccine has actually worked as well as can be expected by protecting the old and vulnerable folk that would have died….
The jab everything approach is an absolute joke and totally indefensible when looking at the numbers.

People that cannot see this now are part of the problem and as culpable as the people milking every penny out of it.

The cure it seems is worse than the disease.

 

[V8Druid]

I do like their thought processes

 

[V8Druid]

this subject has gone very quiet ....
has everyone jacked or is it biz as usual - just don't mention the war jabs ??

if so, how many of us 'filthy unvaccinated ' are administering jabs to the sheep, blindly following the flock ?
" Of the 1700 people who have died in the UK yesterday, Boris Johnson has only managed to find 1 who had died within 28 days of a positive test for Omicron, so as to try to justify his obsession with boosters & the imposition of yet more unethical/damaging restrictions "
" Sajid Javid says vaccine passport will not be valid unless people have had two jabs and a booster, rather than just two jabs, "once all adults have had a reasonable chance to get their booster jab". "
so at what point will this bollox stop ????

and now Boris Johnson says we should set aside the fact Omicron doesn’t really seem to be that dangerous.
" 80% of Omicron cases found in the fully vaccinated, a third of them had received a booster dose Symptoms are mild in both the unvaccinated and vaccinated - Reuters "