Carter CT08 "Proper Engineering"

[Get Carter]

"..... we got rid of our Carters fed up sending fitters out to repair them. Even the exhaust shook itself to bits......!

So I cannot say I wasn't warned.

Words fail me with this bag of s**t. Today out on a job and the hydraulics failed. Ram won't retract.

Perhaps Mr Carter UK and NI would like to comment.

"That;s not a carter exhaust"
That picture has been photoshopped"
"Wrong type of diesel smoke"
"The CT08 and CT10 are for DIYer and smallholders. The digger knows the difference and will vibrate differently.

 

[doobin]

I told you to move it on quick in the last thread....

 

[Get Carter]

I know I cannot get it working for long enough to put a for sale on it and wave it goodbye.

 

[Brendan]

May as well update your other thread, do you have any more pics?

Carter Diggers

Hi, The following is the a true description of the no end of problems I have with a CT08 digger. I would advise anyone considering buying one of these please read this or message me. I'm not the only one though. Businesses who have bought these machines, certainly the CT08 have got rid. They...

www.planttalk.co.uk

 

[V8Druid]

Words fail me with this bag of s**t. Today out on a job and the hydraulics failed. Ram won't retract.

"That;s not a carter exhaust"
That picture has been photoshopped"
"Wrong type of diesel smoke"
"The CT08 and CT10 are for DIYer and smallholders.

The digger knows the difference and will vibrate differently.

class

 

[Maxus]

Can't you get a refund under the consumer rights act?? Sounds like the machine is a beyond a joke. Take em' to court!

Consumer rights when you want to return faulty goods - Warners Solicitors

Consumers have robust legal rights to return or reject a faulty item and demand a refund.

www.warners-solicitors.co.uk

 

[Get Carter]

Can't you get a refund under the consumer rights act?? Sounds like the machine is a beyond a joke. Take em' to court!

Consumer rights when you want to return faulty goods - Warners Solicitors

Consumers have robust legal rights to return or reject a faulty item and demand a refund.

www.warners-solicitors.co.uk

Fit for purpose as said does has a wide definition. But to me the damage to my business is done. So the best option to put it on ebay and be truthful with every known fault and parts replacement it has had. Free packet of aspirin for the migraine it will cause.

The advert has to be truthful as otherwise it will breach their regulations. After all I wouldn't want to sell someone a pile of crap without being totally honest, rather than tell someone "what you want to hear."

There will be a page on "Bad" Points. " Good" points, I can only think of two, it uses very little diesel and has low hours.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Fit for purpose as said does has a wide definition. But to me the damage to my business is done. So the best option to put it on ebay and be truthful with every known fault and parts replacement it has had. Free packet of aspirin for the migraine it will cause.

The advert has to be truthful as otherwise it will breach their regulations. After all I wouldn't want to sell someone a pile of crap without being totally honest, rather than tell someone "what you want to hear."

There will be a page on "Bad" Points. " Good" points, I can only think of two, it uses very little diesel and has low hours.

At least youve got the Bedford camper ad for inspiration

 

[Get Carter]

Funny thing is I has already thought of that, then came on here and viewed that thread.

I can already hear the wailing from other sellers of Chinese Diggers.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Funny thing is I has already thought of that, then came on here and viewed that thread.

I can already hear the wailing from other sellers of Chinese Diggers.

I’d list it at a high price (so the ad stays up for a long time) and list all the issues, to put people off buying them in the first place.
If the importer/seller won’t fully refund you then there’s no harm in exposing the product for the crap it is IMO.

 

[doobin]

I’d be suing, no question about it. It’s not fit for purpose and the dealer is trying to wriggle out of providing any backup. Still, what do you expect when you buy from a farmer masquerading as a main dealer? With a Hotmail email address! No better than all the barrow boy ‘machinery dealers’ on Facebook.

 

[Maxus]

When it's a small item like a torch or a tape measure that's a Chinese piece of crap you just cut your losses. But a digger? I think legal action should be considered and options explored, it's likely correct business descion in this instance. PITA!

Strong and reliable???
Simple but effective??

 

[doobin]

I’d list it at a high price (so the ad stays up for a long time) and list all the issues, to put people off buying them in the first place.
If the importer/seller won’t fully refund you then there’s no harm in exposing the product for the crap it is IMO.

See, you’re thinking that will hurt the dealer by impacting sales. What will really hurt him is having to give OP his money back.
Come on mate, if you’d bought a chipper with this list of woes you’d have sued by now.
I agree with the post above, legal action is correct business decision.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

See, you’re thinking that will hurt the dealer by impacting sales. What will really hurt him is having to give OP his money back.
Come on mate, if you’d bought a chipper with this list of woes you’d have sued by now.
I agree with the post above, legal action is correct business decision.

I’d have gone and worked it out man-to-man and would like to think I’d have arranged a refund tbh, yeah.
Legal action is potentially an expensive nightmare unfortunately, but it looks as though the OP has a decent case.
I had an issue with a new IW trailer a few years ago (nothing as serious as this in fairness) and explored legal recompense - it would have ended up costing more than the hassle was worth (which the seller knew).
It ended up being sorted out, and I learned to avoid putting money into the legal profession’s coffers and where possible dealing with any issues face to face.

 

[GazCro]

I’d be suing, no question about it. It’s not fit for purpose and the dealer is trying to wriggle out of providing any backup. Still, what do you expect when you buy from a farmer masquerading as a main dealer? With a Hotmail email address! No better than all the barrow boy ‘machinery dealers’ on Facebook.

The fit for purpose thing is so open ended. You've got to look at what the machine has cost and what suing might cost and they weigh up the risk. Suing ain't that straight forward and at best going that route may only get the dealer to give you you're money back after you've already spent that amount on legal fees.
Old fella had a brand new machine years ago with a list of faults (one seriously dangerous) a mile long and manufacturer was next to useless and barely interested. I don't know how many times 'fit for purpose' was mentioned but they just laughed as its so open ended. It didn't matter it couldn't lift a bucket full at reach which every previous machine old lad had been on in previous 15 years could as that was outside of its design capability and you shouldn't be doing that anyway!

 

[JD450A]

I'd of f***ed the digger over the dealers head by now..... Some people ask for Beatings and Burnings...... Sooner or later the wrong wanker will be crossed.

 

[Regy53]

Of to euros she goes …….

 

[JD450A]

Of to euros she goes …….

No, off to my yard with that IHI thankyou

 

[Justme]

Can't you get a refund under the consumer rights act?? Sounds like the machine is a beyond a joke. Take em' to court!

Consumer rights when you want to return faulty goods - Warners Solicitors

Consumers have robust legal rights to return or reject a faulty item and demand a refund.

www.warners-solicitors.co.uk

The consumer rights act would not apply as this was a B2B sale.

Trade sales dont have all the same protections.

 

[Lancs Lad]

These days social media used intelligently could do as much good (or harm depending on your viewpoint) as legal ...plenty of high profile examples of late. Shout it far and wide...
Upshot is that not everything Chinese is that good then?