Bristol Crawler renovation

Motorb

Motorb

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Hi!

Another PD48 owner here, also looking for information about these old workhorses. Does anyone have any pictures of the three-point hitch that came with these machines, or any that have been fitted? I'm also hoping to find an old wreck somewhere with the 540 rpm pto gear, or any information on this part.

Much appreciated
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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
welcome boyo .... nice toy ........ and playground :giggle::giggle:
 
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Frosty

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Hi!

Another PD48 owner here, also looking for information about these old workhorses. Does anyone have any pictures of the three-point hitch that came with these machines, or any that have been fitted? I'm also hoping to find an old wreck somewhere with the 540 rpm pto gear, or any information on this part.

Much appreciated
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Very nice, i am in the process of restoring my PD which has got linkage and PTO
I will get some pictures for you when i am next working on her, unfortunately i will not be selling them, not to sure where you might find any, not a lot of these machines left now.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Anyone used an overloader in anger?
Know where there's one maybe more ...going to have a gander...
Just wondering if it's a pure "display toy" or we can get a bit of use out of it ?
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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Anyone used an overloader in anger?
Know where there's one maybe more ...going to have a gander...
Just wondering if it's a pure "display toy" or we can get a bit of use out of it ?

I’ve never heard of one ! Be interested to see what they are /do
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I’ve never heard of one ! Be interested to see what they are /do
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dig in reverse and load forwards with this one ... usually the reverse
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Old Operator

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There was a Bray Duoloader, & a similar machine made by JCB in the '50s - The JCB machine had an optional chute type bucket meant for charging gas works retorts with small coal. Both these based on Fordson Ag wheeled tractors.
On Tracks was a Hough loader, The Anthony Loader - Dozer, to fit the IH BTD6, The Athey Mobiloader, fitted the D4. All the above loaded to the front & tipped to the rear. The Anthony & Athey boasted that the bucket was removable so as to fit a conventional blade so the machine could then be used as a dozer as well. I would imagine the rear tipping thing meant no fixed rear attachment possible, such as a CCU scraper winch or ripper. Back rippers would be possible - hinging down from the rear of the dozer blade & operating in reverse - these can still be seen on Clarke Airborne mini dozers
 

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cowfarmer

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Hi,
I have recently been gifted a Bristol Bulldozer, complete with a solid roll open cab and 3 point linkage and pto. As I have 100 acres to look after it has potential to be a very useful addtition to my Leyland I54 tractor. The lack of a manufacturers plate is the reason for the doubt. The distance between the tracks is 33", with 12" wide tracks. The manual I managed to find indicates the 12" tracks were on a PD 48 but the outside width of the tracks is 57" so it does not line up with any of the models on the specification page I managed to find on the net. If I am barking up the wrong tree here please enlighten me because information on these beasts is not easy to find.
The machine is pretty much all there except for the engine covers which are on the neighbours property somewhere, and will be tracked down eventually. The engine runs ok for something that sat in a paddock for at least 3 years, and the tracks and drive sprockets are not badly worn. Engine hours are 2560. It has 3 point linkage and pto. But for an issue with not wanting to stay in reverse gear it would be all good. I have found sone whitworth spanners and taken the top off the gear box, and as far as I can see through the thick milky oil there is an excessive amount of movement at the spigot bearing on the main shaft.
Does anyone on this board have any experience in this area of the machine? Can it be fixed without a complete tear down? I have work for the machine to do immediately, but have no wish to push the gearbox into doing more damage than has already been done. I have a big shed, a 2 ton gantry crane on wheels, and plently of mechanical experience pulling apart and rebuilding all manner of equipment for insurance restoration purposes, and access to a very capable retired tractor mechanic and several excellent machine shops so a tear down and rebuild is doable, but I would prefer not to go there right now.
Any wisdom based on experience from the members is most welcome, phots in the next post.

Cheers


Simon
 
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Old Operator

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Just a thought - the problem may not be unique to this gearbox, it might be an idea to ask the question on the workshop forum along with some pics of the problem area. 'Mick the Fitter' on there might have some ideas. Look forward to seeing a general pick of the machine. As to the track width well some makers offered a machine in several different gauges dependent on the land it would work on, eg side slopes
 
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cowfarmer

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Thanks for the response. Photos as promised. I will head over to the workshop forum as per Old Operator's suggestion and see what the experts have to say.

Cheers

Simon
 

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Old Operator

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Fairly confident it is a PD (a development of the Bristol 25) A man had a pair of these & was selling the older one which had a welded crack across the bell housing. It had an overloader rather than just a blade. I think the engine hangs on to the main case like a flange mount elec motor. Our Europa had vertical cracks in the box as I said. This may be a common fault so look for this before spending much on it. I think those with a loader & used industrially were more prone to cracks because of the shock loads you may not get on soft land, & the loading / unloading off transport. I remember being told that if you fitted a back actor to the PD the max hydraulic pressure you must set was 1600psi because the pump drove off the timing/ injector pump drive, so if needing more a rear PTO pump was needed. Also there may have been flow limitations. I seem to remember that this had a foot pedal engine clutch, the Europa was hand clutch as these were options on the PD. A bit of info / pics I found here, he owns a Bristol as well
 
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