Bare bones nox 'tilty' setup

G

Geo

New member
Hello All,
I'm a new member across the pond in America. I've been interested in 'tiltys' for a while and want to thank you all for your hands on, common sense observations, and advice. I recently sold my old Cat 205LC(16K + hrs and still purring :) )and the boss gal has OKed spending some of the proceeds on upgrading my 3-1/2 ton Bobcat E35 mini. It's got an extendable stick and I've installed a second auxiliary hydraulic circuit so I now have two sets of hydraulic quick connects on the stick. My initial reason for doing it was plumbing for a progressive link thumb I'm going to build but the thought occurred that if I pinned the extenda stick I might be able to set up a bare bones tilty. I got interested in the TR06Nox unit from Kinshofer because it's compact and light weight and I figured I've got two auxiliary circuits, why not just hook them directly to the tilt and swivel ports and have a nice simple setup for a grading bucket,beam ,etc.. No expensive electronics, controls, joysticks, and so on. So I called Kinshofer N.A. and spoke with a salesman who told me that the unit itself has electronics inside and I could not operate it without a control. Being a stubborn yankee I visited your tilt rotator forums and came across the one from October 27, 2018 labeled Kinshofer Nox? where it sounds as though Shovelhands did pretty much what I was thinking on his JCB. Was the salesman correct or can I run that unit well with my auxiliary's ? Not a large knowledge base in the states as tiltys are just starting to find their way here. I've only seen one (engcon) in the flesh.
Geo.
 
Regy53

Regy53

I like cake
Welcome to the forum, some amount of hours on your previous machine. In the uk people struggle to get their head over 5000 hours , Some bright fellow will be along with tilt into I am sure
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

Well-known member
Welcome to the forum Geo

I do indeed have a Nox, TR11, which is run very much as you describe, of the machines original auxiliaries. The only electrics I have on the Nox are for an extra auxiliary which runs a grab etc,but that’s only two wires.
I can only assume that the TR06 is capable of this also? I don’t see why not imo, as I said to my Nox rep, they have got to offer comparable setups to the other brands in order to compete. Possibly your dealer representative is a little behind the curve of what’s available?
 
M

Monkeybusiness

Well-known member
If you want a hydraulic Quickhitch on the bottom of the tilty it will have electrics in it (unless you have 3x double acting hydraulic services going to it).
 
K

Keif

Well-known member
After running one for 25 or so hours my lust for tilt rotate is fading.:eek: It is awesome but the weight, stack height and loss of break out is very real......I'd test one and make sure it works for the work you do!$!$!$!
 
Randla

Randla

Interloper
Welcome to the forum, Geo

If you have a look in the tiltrotator section there is plenty of useful info (I wrote some of it when I was running Engcon in the UK) and I would specifically point you at the following post https://www.planttalk.co.uk/threads/tiltrotator-selection.187/

What your Kinshofer rep may be describing is known as a four (or six) hose setup, or what the tilty manufacturer will call SS9. One circuit does the tilt and the other does the rotate. If you want an auto hitch you will need either a separate hitch circuit (six hoses) or the electronics to switch between (typically) the tilt function and the hitch. If you get a gripper then the tilt function switch will include this. You appear to want a bare tilty, which is an option (from Engcon, at least), but Kinshofer may not offer it. You will need a manual hitch or a separate hitch circuit and won't be able to spec a gripper.

HTH

Robert
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
welcome @Geo ..... it's also possible to just re-plumb your services to run the motor and tilt rams with a little juggling of pipes, on any unit if you're prepared to wield a few spanners and play about with some fittings ;) ... would be a bit of a waste of all the fancy trick bits in the middle of the unit though ...... can't see that Kins couldn't supply you with a 4 pipe unit, or even one with a change over to run a hyd hitch under it, although a manual hitch'd be the easiest/simplest route.
I assume your extra services are proportional?
 
G

Geo

New member
Thanks all,
There were some tears shed when the old 205 went down the road but I found a good home for it. Got a busy weekend coming up but I'm going to digest your input some more and probably get back in touch with sales rep before I pick yours brains again.
Geo
 
Top