Anyone recommend a good cordless vacuum for car.

Pedrod355

Pedrod355

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You'll not regret it .
That's obviously Mclass...don't bother runless you have to for site.
Plus it's AC ....if you only doing wood you don't need either.
Got the L class , 2nd festool hoover brilliant , As said don’t bother with M class unless you need to tick box's on site.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Thats not M class. I think for mdf, hard wood and stone dust it should be m class now ?
I like the idea of auto clean as i have popped bags on henrys before when hovering filler and stonedust.
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6feetdown

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I've an old Bosch Gas 25 i think absolutely brilliant had so much crap through it and the Festool not had as much abuse but again a great dust extractor/ vac
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Mate of mine is a joiner and he loves his ….
I use a metabo vaccum on the chaser, and just a Henry on the cordless chopsaw/rail saw.
Most of my panel cutting is usually outside under a gazebo so the mini cordless leaf blower sends it all off away somewhere 🫣
Im close to pulling the trigger on one of these.

Its a lot of money for a hoover but you really need at least 1200w of suction to hover from saws. I have been using two henrys 2x600w in the shed for woodworking and dust still escapes whilst cutting.
I cut a hole in a concrete floor the other day in a garage at least 600mmx600mm, using a 9 inch grinder with a dust shield and there was virtually no dust with 2 henrys on the job.
Obviously two henrys are impracticable hence the above.
just how much is this all singing, dancing vac? and how many of the screwfix could you buy for the same bucks (or get replaced at 11 months, like Dan 'slim' Weston [localdiggers] used to with his Titan breakers ) :LOL:
 
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6feetdown

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just how much is this all singing, dancing vac? and how many of the screwfix could you buy for the same bucks (or get replaced at 11 months, like Dan 'slim' Weston [localdiggers] used to with his Titan breakers ) :LOL:
Festool built their reputation on dust extraction so you will pay a premium but they are good
 
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Smiffy

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just how much is this all singing, dancing vac? and how many of the screwfix could you buy for the same bucks (or get replaced at 11 months, like Dan 'slim' Weston [localdiggers] used to with his Titan breakers ) :LOL:

Your also paying for the integration. It's Bluetooth so works with cordless tools.
I can't tell if the titan has a plug socket on it for auto activation, but if it does you still can't use auto start with 110v or cordless tools.
Festool also works with their systainer system.
It's a lot of money but I can see the reasoning behind buying it if it's used everyday.
But I don't think anything festool makes, offers value for money unless it's being used day in day out.
 
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6feetdown

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Your also paying for the integration. It's Bluetooth so works with cordless tools.
I can't tell if the titan has a plug socket on it for auto activation, but if it does you still can't use auto start with 110v or cordless tools.
Festool also works with their systainer system.
It's a lot of money but I can see the reasoning behind buying it if it's used everyday.
But I don't think anything festool makes, offers value for money unless it's being used day in day out.
True their biggest router awesome, big domino too 150 rotex sander too.

They are made to work
 
Lancs Lad

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Your also paying for the integration. It's Bluetooth so works with cordless tools.
I can't tell if the titan has a plug socket on it for auto activation, but if it does you still can't use auto start with 110v or cordless tools.
Festool also works with their systainer system.
It's a lot of money but I can see the reasoning behind buying it if it's used everyday.
But I don't think anything festool makes, offers value for money unless it's being used day in day out.
Id beg to differ ...spent 10 years selling the stuff.

If you aren't a decent 2nd fix chippy then you'll probably not appreciate it properly.

They do however attract a certain breed of slightly concerning type of OCD affected trades people...with dubious hobbies
 
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Smiffy

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If you aren't a decent 2nd fix chippy then you'll probably not appreciate it properly.

That's what I mean about the value for money.
You have to be using it day in day out, and be fairly good at what you do to appreciate the difference and warrant the extra cost. For alot of people it's pointless buying a tool more accurate than they are. Especially at the extra cost.
 
Lancs Lad

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That's what I mean about the value for money.
You have to be using it day in day out, and be fairly good at what you do to appreciate the difference and warrant the extra cost. For alot of people it's pointless buying a tool more accurate than they are. Especially at the extra cost.
All depends on the market you playing in ..
Festool really needs to be compared to mafell or high end Milwaukee stuff.
Take the track saw ...gap between Milwaukee and festool isn't much and I've had both side by side ...festool blew it away

I've seen and played with some of the new stuff coming and the new single battery track saw coming is mind blowingly good.

Yes I was indoctrinated 😂😂😂
 
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Russell

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Im impressed with the festool bits i have so far, track saw and domino. With the track saw i can easily shave 1mm or even 0.5 when using the edge guide bits.
With regard to the cheap m class hover, yes that is way less money. The festool is £600 i think. I have tried to move away from cheap chinese tools as i found them to be rubbish and the specs can be a complete lie. Also maybe im being a bit of a drip but i dont like the idea of filling up landfill with crap that lasts 6 months when it should last 20 years, its a bloody waste of materials if nothing else.
Having said that i have been buying cheap air nailers and staplers as you need a few different ones .
Im not woodworking profesionally at the moment its more of a hobby dooing up the house for now although i have been in the building trade doing this and that for the last 20 years.
 
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Smiffy

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All depends on the market you playing in ..
Festool really needs to be compared to mafell or high end Milwaukee stuff.
Take the track saw ...gap between Milwaukee and festool isn't much and I've had both side by side ...festool blew it away

I've seen and played with some of the new stuff coming and the new single battery track saw coming is mind blowingly good.

Yes I was indoctrinated 😂😂😂

I've only used their track saw, mitre saw and big sander. The saws accuracy both far exceeded my ability. Not that I am in any way trained in woodwork of any description. The sander was of course great but i would never in my life use a sander enough to justify it.
 
Lancs Lad

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I've only used their track saw, mitre saw and big sander. The saws accuracy both far exceeded my ability. Not that I am in any way trained in woodwork of any description. The sander was of course great but i would never in my life use a sander enough to justify it.
And yet there's hobby guys with whole sheds full of every variant of festool ever made!
Once asked one fella what he made with it...oh don't really use it much 🤣🤣🤣.
Green disease is bad.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Im impressed with the festool bits i have so far, track saw and domino. With the track saw i can easily shave 1mm or even 0.5 when using the edge guide bits.
With regard to the cheap m class hover, yes that is way less money. The festool is £600 i think. I have tried to move away from cheap chinese tools as i found them to be rubbish and the specs can be a complete lie. Also maybe im being a bit of a drip but i dont like the idea of filling up landfill with crap that lasts 6 months when it should last 20 years, its a bloody waste of materials if nothing else.
Having said that i have been buying cheap air nailers and staplers as you need a few different ones .
Im not woodworking profesionally at the moment its more of a hobby dooing up the house for now.
Absolutely bang on. If anyone actually wanted to improve the environment and look after the planet ...banning Amazon would be a simple step. Imagine the amount of sheer crap that's already in the bin since Xmas day
 
doobin

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And yet there's hobby guys with whole sheds full of every variant of festool ever made!
Once asked one fella what he made with it...oh don't really use it much 🤣🤣🤣.
Green disease is bad.
Festools left festering in the shed? :eek:

Best he makes sure they're not left near the fenestration, else they might get filched!
 
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Smiffy

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And yet there's hobby guys with whole sheds full of every variant of festool ever made!
Once asked one fella what he made with it...oh don't really use it much 🤣🤣🤣.
Green disease is bad.


In that instance i would rather have more Makita or DeWalt tools. Still good quality but you get more of them, and an amateur is barely going to notice the difference in refinement.

As for Chinese tools, my most used drill is a Lidl parkside one. It's a 12v that I bought to see if I got on with 12v tools before splashing on Milwaukee. With the idea of if I like it I will replace with the Milwaukee when it dies. I really like it but it won't die so I can't buy the Milwaukee. 😔
 
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6feetdown

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Festool are great for the professional like I said their rep was built on dust capture before it became more popular!
I've 2 routers 1 i love othe not so much 2 x rotex sander, chopsaw with wings is great 12v drill very rarely use now but nice drill. Domino xl which is on permanent 'borrow' to guys across from me, led light, battery and corded tracksaw plus 1 extractor.
Expensive yes but they were 1 of the 1st with 3 Yr warranty, free 3 yr servicing and theft insurance
 
doobin

doobin

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In that instance i would rather have more Makita or DeWalt tools. Still good quality but you get more of them, and an amateur is barely going to notice the difference in refinement.

As for Chinese tools, my most used drill is a Lidl parkside one. It's a 12v that I bought to see if I got on with 12v tools before splashing on Milwaukee. With the idea of if I like it I will replace with the Milwaukee when it dies. I really like it but it won't die so I can't buy the Milwaukee. 😔
The Milwaukee 12v one will be double the power and ergonomics. There's really no comparison.
 
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Smiffy

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The Milwaukee 12v one will be double the power and ergonomics. There's really no comparison.

TBF the parkside does everything that is required of it
I know the Milwaukee will be far nicer and I also want some of the other M12 tools but I simply can't buy the Milwaukee until the parkside breaks.
 
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