pettsy
Well-known member
On the farm forum there’s a guy that sells lots of iskra starters for tractors and plant.
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bobthebuilder
Well-known member
ace
Mogman
What man as done, man can do, what never has,maybe
pettsy
Well-known member
Indeed, his website incase anyone is looking http://www.aandrhandling.co.uk/
Gecko
Well-known member
For the next person deciding between the original direct drive and a reduction drive starter, here is the physical comparison.
The new starter draws 500Amps and seems to frighten the engine into starting.
Apart from anything else, the slimmer body allows you to get a socket onto the mounts making installation so much easier.
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The new starter draws 500Amps and seems to frighten the engine into starting.
Apart from anything else, the slimmer body allows you to get a socket onto the mounts making installation so much easier.
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Regy53
I like cake
We’re tight and I do actually stock 3cx starter motors from hts. They have a sale on every now and then, work a treat
Gecko
Well-known member
Good to know, but for me, I suspect postage might be ... painful!
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
the 'high energy' type starters are fitted to most things these days ... have been for years and really fling stuff over in some order .... biggest issue with them from my experience is the planetary drives giving up the ghost .... and they do not like being wound over for long
JD450A
Feral as Fk 🐾
Not a massive fan of high inertia starters personally.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
agreed - me neither ... bit small in most cases .... great whilst they're working, but have a habit of destroying themselves in an epic fashion
Gecko
Well-known member
Yeah, I can imagine they'll get hot fast.
This one is rated 3kW and I measured 500Amps while cranking.
I didn't measure the terminal voltage, but assuming it was pulled down to 10V.
That works out to 5kW from the battery resulting in 2kW being turned into heat in the motor.
2kW in an un-ventilated motor will have a very fast temp rise.
GazCro
Well-known member
I think part of it is down to the fact they are expensive and that cheap versions are just that, cheap for a reason.
Mick-the-fitter
It’s what I do!
Due to the reduction gearing the torque is very high, so when something goes wrong it is catastrophic, in replace on recently on a 2010 Deutz engine, the old direct motor chipped a pinion tooth, I thought I had got all the chips out but one bit must have been hiding in the bell housing, started ok for a week, one morning the call came that the starter had gone again, when I removed it I found the pinion housing sheered completely off the motor, bits of metal everywhere so bell housing off.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
never seen a cheap High Energy unit .... always 'kin 'spensive
GazCro
Well-known member
Cheaper then. Thing is they are like anything you only hear of those that went wrong and caused damage not the ones which never gave bother. There seems to be a fair bit of machinery about now which needs the upgrade to them regardless of the pitfalls.never seen a cheap High Energy unit .... always 'kin 'spensive
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
the one on my P38 is 24 yrs old and works first flick every time (touch wood)
..... got another in the spares cupboard though - in case
Gecko
Well-known member
Thinking about it, I can't imagine any starter surviving passing a spare tooth between the ring-gear and pinion
(I'm still enjoying the 1-second start)
Mick-the-fitter
It’s what I do!
They’re good while they start, just don’t run it out of fuel!,
Gecko
Well-known member
oh - yeah, understood.
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