14ft Ifor

[Lancs Lad]

Cant we all just run tractors and haul what we want on red diesel on a car licence and be done with it chaps?

Beat me to it! I need to get some pics of the stuff round here...13t with couple of ratchet straps chucked over the tracks if you lucky is the norm. Only going to increase imo...

 

[Justme]

Cant we all just run tractors and haul what we want on red diesel on a car licence and be done with it chaps?

Er no, as soon as you use a tractor for non agri forestry or fishery use it becomes a lorry & the need for a C C1 CE or C1E licence, with full tacho O licence white diesel, mot road fund licence & 6 weekly checks.

Your cat F licence only covers the exempted usage not all usage.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Er no, as soon as you use a tractor for non agri forestry or fishery use it becomes a lorry & the need for a C C1 CE or C1E licence, with full tacho O licence white diesel, mot road fund licence & 6 weekly checks.

Your cat F licence only covers the exempted usage not all usage.

You forget...everyone's in agri

 

[V8Druid]

Er no, as soon as you use a tractor for non agri forestry or fishery use it becomes a lorry & the need for a C C1 CE or C1E licence, with full tacho O licence white diesel, mot road fund licence & 6 weekly checks.

Your cat F licence only covers the exempted usage not all usage.

until plod and VOSA/DVSA start taking these people's kit and crushing/selling it, as said it is only going to continue/get worse ....... some examples need to be made .... can think of half a dozen around here they could kick off with

 

[JD450A]

The Issue with tractors and enforcement is the fear of upsetting farmer one cow who's busy hauling soil away from sites.

I know of 3 local plant firms all playing this game.... high time they where f***ed over.

 

[Gunners]

But I am farming.... I'm farming dirt!

Purely taking the p1** here but its had the desired intention in that we've stopped bigging each other up about how many axels we run and how "overweight" we all might not be but its ok because it looks right?
Seriously gentlemen, I thought we were better than that.
Running knowingly overweight is just as bad as the guy with his tractor - although he is being safer if he strapped it down correctly!
Both outside the rules both as bad as each other. It happens, its not right, but those of us with the knowledge should be doing our best to stay within the limits

 

[JD450A]

You should all be legal and run a lorry like me, you dodgy bastards.

 

[Smiffy]

You should all be legal and run a lorry like me, you dodgy bastards.

Are we allowed to then overload the lorry ??

It does amaze me when going abroad the amount of lorrys doing what a transit would be doing here and surely for a lot of companies a hook loader or tipper and drag would be quite a useful thing being able to move machines and materials

I don't know if any one else has seen seafood digger hire on Facebook they have a very smart setup as does hill utilities

 

[JD450A]

The issue with any lorry over 15t is the taxation..... I'm in two minds about whether to uprate my Foden, or sell it and drop down to a 18t or even 15t grab again..... Buying them is cheap running them is not.

 

[Furniss]

Are we allowed to then overload the lorry ??

It does amaze me when going abroad the amount of lorrys doing what a transit would be doing here and surely for a lot of companies a hook loader or tipper and drag would be quite a useful thing being able to move machines and materials

I don't know if any one else has seen seafood digger hire on Facebook they have a very smart setup as does hill utilities

Hookloaders very popular here even baby stuff like my 7.5t - ive said it before that its a no going back scénario after 20 years of sodding ramps.
Of course a bit like a third axle it eats into you payload but its worth it.
If I can be motivated to go through more hassle the intention is to go up to a bigger version that will carry an 6t machine but I've no lad following and I'm slowly running out of motivation

 

[Smiffy]

The issue with any lorry over 15t is the taxation..... I'm in two minds about whether to uprate my Foden, or sell it and drop down to a 18t or even 15t grab again..... Buying them is cheap running them is not.

There are a couple of really nice 12t grabs on eBay ATM including an Isuzu 11t with 6t carry capacity, that's only 1.5t less than an 18t

 

[Furniss]

There are a couple of really nice 12t grabs on eBay ATM including an Isuzu 11t with 6t carry capacity, that's only 1.5t less than an 18t

You lads are lucky in that respect .... wagons are more than twice the price here

 

[Smiffy]

Hookloaders very popular here even baby stuff like my 7.5t - ive said it before that its a no going back scénario after 20 years of sodding ramps.
Of course a bit like a third axle it eats into you payload but its worth it.
If I can be motivated to go through more hassle the intention is to go up to a bigger version that will carry an 6t machine but I've no lad following and I'm slowly running out of motivation

Even better depending what your doing having multiple body's.
A firm round here has a 12t with a plate a dropside rubble body a high side waste skip and an insulated tarmac body.

I even saw one the other day with a little 1t hiab with clamshell mounted on a body

 

[Furniss]

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Even better depending what your doing having multiple body's.
A firm round here has a 12t with a plate a dropside rubble body a high side waste skip and an insulated tarmac body.

I even saw one the other day with a little 1t hiab with clamshell mounted on a body

I thought I might end up with several bodies but at 3.5k - 4k a time you make do.
With enough will you could fab up a hut for all tools/fittings etc to drop on job or put rails on a little container etc

Lots of possibilities.

 

[V8Druid]

Are we allowed to then overload the lorry ??

It does amaze me when going abroad the amount of lorrys doing what a transit would be doing here and surely for a lot of companies a hook loader or tipper and drag would be quite a useful thing being able to move machines and materials

I don't know if any one else has seen seafood digger hire on Facebook they have a very smart setup as does hill utilities

not if you know what's good for you, you won't

 

[V8Druid]

Hookloaders very popular here even baby stuff like my 7.5t - ive said it before that its a no going back scénario after 20 years of sodding ramps.
Of course a bit like a third axle it eats into you payload but its worth it.
If I can be motivated to go through more hassle the intention is to go up to a bigger version that will carry an 6t machine but I've no lad following and I'm slowly running out of motivation

age does that to you ...... it's deciding when to pull the plug --- if you don't get it decided for you

 

[Justme]

until plod and VOSA/DVSA start taking these people's kit and crushing/selling it, as said it is only going to continue/get worse ....... some examples need to be made .... can think of half a dozen around here they could kick off with

We had two contractors driving tractor & trailers pulled a coupe of years ago.
Got every tick it the book for offences.

 

[doobin]

Round here a bloke I know got pulled, just told to run on white. There's a contactor with a Fastrac too, apparently he got pulled a while ago but nothing has changed and he still regularly runs 13 tonners with tiltys around on the back of it.

 

[Furniss]

Yeah depends if its something you love or a means to an end.

 

[JD450A]

Round here a bloke I know got pulled, just told to run on white. There's a contactor with a Fastrac too, apparently he got pulled a while ago but nothing has changed and he still regularly runs 13 tonners with tiltys around on the back of it.

And this is why It doesn't get better..... Should be smacked against the wall by the Traffic commissioner and fined until there bankrupt....