Small Tracked dumper.

[Brendan]

My current thinking is to steer clear of JCB due to complaints about weak track motors on the older models that have a habit of breaking. Does anyone know what the older cormidi's are like? They look like a good bet to me so far, as do TCP although I hear they are LOUD.


Not sure on price but for similar money bcs two wheel tractors have a wheel barrow attachment and you can of course run power harrow rotovator etc..

They are all fairly loud, as the exhausts aren't very big.
I have a 1998 cormidi c50 it's fairly loud but is fast, nearly twice the speed as the htd5 but doesn't tip as good. Spares aren't too great to get either as need a couple if front track rollers and none anywhere. Will probably have to strip it down and see if anyone can do bearings to suit. Although it still works and doesn't throw a track off so may wait till it's a real problem

 

[V8Druid]

They are all fairly loud, as the exhausts aren't very big.
I have a 1998 cormidi c50 it's fairly loud but is fast, nearly twice the speed as the htd5 but doesn't tip as good. Spares aren't too great to get either as need a couple if front track rollers and none anywhere. Will probably have to strip it down and see if anyone can do bearings to suit. Although it still works and doesn't throw a track off so may wait till it's a real problem

better doing it 'before' it becomes a 'real problem' Brendan

 

[Maxus]

I've not heard much mention of Yamaguchi, in particular the wb 06 model. Can anyone tell me if they are they worth a look, or not!?

 

[6feetdown]

So, small tracked dumpers, tracked barrows etc. Is a high tip and necessity?

Looking info from you guys that some them

Possibly got either Messersi TC95d Hi Tip Tracked Dumper

or

Messersi TC50 Hi Tip Tracked Dumper

 

[doobin]

I've not heard much mention of Yamaguchi, in particular the wb 06 model. Can anyone tell me if they are they worth a look, or not!?

Think Rory rates them. They certainly have a pedigree, used to build the rc range for kubota and there are many out there thirty years old still going strong. I have a 2018 wb-18 and it’s a good machine.

 

[Maxus]

Think Rory rates them. They certainly have a pedigree, used to build the rc range for kubota and there are many out there thirty years old still going strong. I have a 2018 wb-18 and it’s a good machine.

Well, there she is. I'm partially deaf now from tracking it around with no ear defenders and 3 grand poorer, but happy so far. Thanks for all your input, very helpful for me . Seems like a solid machine.

 

[V8Druid]

Well, there she is. I'm partially deaf now from tracking it around with no ear defenders and 3 grand poorer, but happy so far. Thanks for all your input, very helpful for me . Seems like a solid machine.

looks pretty tidy

 

[doobin]

Can't go wrong at that money.

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Jumping on this thread. Although it’s a bit old. We are doing more micro ground works than we used to. Most of it is back garden work so narrow access vital. Most jobs 1 or 2 days so trying to decide on needing a micro excavator or not was a pain so ended up buying a bobcat E10z. We use a muck truck but has its limitations when tying to load the tipping trailer, you have to run it up the ramps and it can be a bit sketchy. Now looking to go down the high tip tracked route. We just did a job where we took out 15 tons and hired a Slanetrack which is an absolute beast but not overly stable nor nimble . I’ve been having a good look around and the only one with expanding tracks seems to be the kubota. Sadly it’s 758mm wide so not as narrow as some, but the 1200mm width with tracks out make it look much more versatile for a lot of the work we do. Anyone got any experience on the Kubota?

 

[6feetdown]

Jumping on this thread. Although it’s a bit old. We are doing more micro ground works than we used to. Most of it is back garden work so narrow access vital. Most jobs 1 or 2 days so trying to decide on needing a micro excavator or not was a pain so ended up buying a bobcat E10z. We use a muck truck but has its limitations when tying to load the tipping trailer, you have to run it up the ramps and it can be a bit sketchy. Now looking to go down the high tip tracked route. We just did a job where we took out 15 tons and hired a Slanetrack which is an absolute beast but not overly stable nor nimble . I’ve been having a good look around and the only one with expanding tracks seems to be the kubota. Sadly it’s 758mm wide so not as narrow as some, but the 1200mm width with tracks out make it look much more versatile for a lot of the work we do. Anyone got any experience on the Kubota?

Makes great sense to have expanders on them, the main reason I bought my tb016 back in the day

 

[doobin]

Makes great sense to have expanders on them, the main reason I bought my tb016 back in the day

Disagree. You don’t need expanding tracks on the dumper IMHO. Most back garden jobs are on the flat, and if it was a bit slopey you’d just cut the access route in level.

The muck truck is great for the price, with the ramps forget the muck truck ramps and just run it up normal ramps into the trailer. Downside is you can’t fill the last two feet.

If you’re looking at spending mega money on a kubota tracked dumper, have a demo or hire a mini loader for a few jobs. Yes, you carry less, but you can self load, level out, lift logs in a grab and a million other jobs. Your ‘dumper driver’ is always busy, not just waiting to be loaded and you waiting for him to get back. Running a larger articulated loader alongside the bigger machines changed the way I thought, I’ve just bought a Sherpa and it’s great. ‘Expandable width’ simply by changing tyres. Loads the centre of a tipper truck. Being able to just step off the back makes it a pleasure to get off and tidy up a bit with the shovel. Visibility and manoeuvrebility are incredible. Minimal turf damage so long as you think about the route and either drive very careful or put a sheet of ply down at the turning point- you can spin on the spot.

This was around £16k with the extra wheels, wide bucket, narrow bucket grab and levelling frame.

 

[6feetdown]

Disagree. You don’t need expanding tracks on the dumper IMHO. Most back garden jobs are on the flat, and if it was a bit slopey you’d just cut the access route in level.

The muck truck is great for the price, with the ramps forget the muck truck ramps and just run it up normal ramps into the trailer. Downside is you can’t fill the last two feet.

If you’re looking at spending mega money on a kubota tracked dumper, have a demo or hire a mini loader for a few jobs. Yes, you carry less, but you can self load, level out, lift logs in a grab and a million other jobs. Your ‘dumper driver’ is always busy, not just waiting to be loaded and you waiting for him to get back. Running a larger articulated loader alongside the bigger machines changed the way I thought, I’ve just bought a Sherpa and it’s great. ‘Expandable width’ simply by changing tyres. Loads the centre of a tipper truck. Being able to just step off the back makes it a pleasure to get off and tidy up a bit with the shovel. Visibility and manoeuvrebility are incredible. Minimal turf damage so long as you think about the route and either drive very careful or put a sheet of ply down at the turning point- you can spin on the spot.

This was around £16k with the extra wheels, wide bucket, narrow bucket grab and levelling frame.
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Yep agree on the loader more use for it than just a dumper

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Disagree. You don’t need expanding tracks on the dumper IMHO. Most back garden jobs are on the flat, and if it was a bit slopey you’d just cut the access route in level.

The muck truck is great for the price, with the ramps forget the muck truck ramps and just run it up normal ramps into the trailer. Downside is you can’t fill the last two feet.

If you’re looking at spending mega money on a kubota tracked dumper, have a demo or hire a mini loader for a few jobs. Yes, you carry less, but you can self load, level out, lift logs in a grab and a million other jobs. Your ‘dumper driver’ is always busy, not just waiting to be loaded and you waiting for him to get back. Running a larger articulated loader alongside the bigger machines changed the way I thought, I’ve just bought a Sherpa and it’s great. ‘Expandable width’ simply by changing tyres. Loads the centre of a tipper truck. Being able to just step off the back makes it a pleasure to get off and tidy up a bit with the shovel. Visibility and manoeuvrebility are incredible. Minimal turf damage so long as you think about the route and either drive very careful or put a sheet of ply down at the turning point- you can spin on the spot.

This was around £16k with the extra wheels, wide bucket, narrow bucket grab and levelling frame.
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I see a lot of these little loaders popping up on the arbor chats. What’s the width of them with narrow tyres?

 

[JD450A]

Both Hinowa and Kubota are the same, and both can come with Expanding tracks..... Having owned one it's worth having them if you can deal with the width issue.

Get a Self loader..... Occasionally gets in the way but far handier.

 

[doobin]

I see a lot of these little loaders popping up on the arbor chats. What’s the width of them with narrow tyres?

760mm. The Cast version goes down to 740mm but the Sherpa felt better to operate.

 

[Stroppymonkey]

I wonder how s**t these are.

 

[Lancs Lad]

I wonder how s**t these are.

Dunno but noticed em when I bought my mill...but when there's more established brands at similar money I moved swiftly on..
World's cheapest road tow chipper tho

 

[doobin]

I wonder how s**t these are.

They are not terrible. @Regy53 sells the Lumag version and might do you a forum deal if you ask nicely.

I took a punt on one at a very good offer price a few years ago and it's exceeded expectations. It's much faster than a normal hydraulic one, although you need to really 'drive' it- it's gears with steering clutches. You need to really watch your hands on the handlebars in tight gaps- easy to catch on something. The high tip is proper high- easily clears a Transit tipper, unlike the Hinowa which many rave about. I had to heat and bend the handlebars so that they were a comfortable height. You can open the revs up to make it even faster but it can get a bit buzzy with vibrations.

The gearbox was my main worry but it's been fine so far. Oil still perfectly clear when I checked it. Loncin engines are no bother at all so don't worry about that. The main weak point has been the steering and drive cables, all of which let go at well before what I would consider a normal service life. I rebuilt them myself as spares were stupid money and out of stock. It needs proper thick (2.5mm) cables for the drive in particular.

Got to say though, that Crytec does look like they've used a lot of cheaper parts. I'm sure @Regy53 will be able to explain further.

This pic was pre-loader days! It's a good match for the E10, but like all high tip dumpers the E10 with a quick hitch has a very narrow working window in which it will reach up into the skip.

 

[Lancs Lad]

They are not terrible. @Regy53 sells the Lumag version and might do you a forum deal if you ask nicely.

I took a punt on one at a very good offer price a few years ago and it's exceeded expectations. It's much faster than a normal hydraulic one, although you need to really 'drive' it- it's gears with steering clutches. You need to really watch your hands on the handlebars in tight gaps- easy to catch on something. The high tip is proper high- easily clears a Transit tipper, unlike the Hinowa which many rave about. I had to heat and bend the handlebars so that they were a comfortable height. You can open the revs up to make it even faster but it can get a bit buzzy with vibrations.

The gearbox was my main worry but it's been fine so far. Oil still perfectly clear when I checked it. Loncin engines are no bother at all so don't worry about that. The main weak point has been the steering and drive cables, all of which let go at well before what I would consider a normal service life. I rebuilt them myself as spares were stupid money and out of stock. It needs proper thick (2.5mm) cables for the drive in particular.

Got to say though, that Crytec does look like they've used a lot of cheaper parts. I'm sure @Regy53 will be able to explain further.

Doob you need to start reviewing stuff...doobtube

 

[doobin]

Doob you need to start reviewing stuff...doobtube

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