Harold’s hire

doobin

doobin

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I've mentioned it before but 0% finance ain't the be all and end all. It only keeps the monthly payments down as at you're year end you can claim the interest paid on machinery finance back against your tax (effectively making it 0%)
I hadn’t thought of it like that 👍🏻 The 19k was base machine only though, 19k including extras on the bobcat (hydraulic hitch etc) would have been 24k canopy on the cat. Fair play to them for making a proper owner op mini, but the figures didn’t stack up for me with four machines on finance.
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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the graders off a 3 ton 🤣 yeah it’ll handle it fine you’ve just gotta think a bit more , to be fair it’s stable as when expanded
Makes sense to me mate. Either way it'll be a huge step up from the TB216, I take it it can actually handle a 600 bucket?
 
GazCro

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I hadn’t thought of it like that 👍🏻 The 19k was base machine only though, 19k including extras on the bobcat (hydraulic hitch etc) would have been 24k canopy on the cat. Fair play to them for making a proper owner op mini, but the figures didn’t stack up for me with four machines on finance.

I hadn’t thought of it like that 👍🏻 The 19k was base machine only though, 19k including extras on the bobcat (hydraulic hitch etc) would have been 24k canopy on the cat. Fair play to them for making a proper owner op mini, but the figures didn’t stack up for me with four machines on finance.
Yeah they appear to be v similar spec etc to taki 225 which makes them a well loaded compact machine but a bit niche. As an owner op/ small business with 3 or 4 machines its difficult to make them stack up cost wise ok if its you're only digger.
 
Bri963

Bri963

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The old cat hitches were Miller with a cat serial plate on it.

Are you dealing with finnings
Not quite. Cat copied the Miller with a few detail changes. Miller took Cat to court a few years ago and won big.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Not quite. Cat copied the Miller with a few detail changes. Miller took Cat to court a few years ago and won big.
Weren't Miller supplying CAT initially, 'til they decided to cut Miller out, copy their hitches .... and then lost big time in court :rolleyes::LOL:
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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Wish they had cut Miller out of the equation absolutely useless
 
Bri963

Bri963

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Weren't Miller supplying CAT initially, 'til they decided to cut Miller out, copy their hitches .... and then lost big time in court :rolleyes::LOL:
That’s it, Gra. They changed some details, but not dimensions or function.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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in what sense .... I like my Miller ... 's one solid hitch (y)
Old ones were good but then they went through a poor quality patch a few years back and some say they are back to building a good hitch again but I've no recent experience of one to know. Up to 3 ton i personally think harford hyd hitches are bad to beat unless you want to run to the expense of a swedish hitch. Let down with s type at the small end is too big imho mind.
 
Danny

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Looks a nice machine a friend runs x2 with cabs self drive and uses them on his own groundworks projects.... people do love them i like the tracking on the lever and cruise control :cool:
 
doobin

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Looks a nice machine a friend runs x2 with cabs self drive and uses them on his own groundworks projects.... people do love them i like the tracking on the lever and cruise control :cool:
He’s mad to put a 24k digger out on self drive when you can get a 16k one that does the same.
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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in what sense .... I like my Miller ... 's one solid hitch (y)
I’m fed up with this story over that last few months so I shall say this only once 🤣

Basically I was having a ram guard fitted at the factory which turned out would delay the delivery by 4 weeks which wasn’t ideal. Cat said we could bin off the ram guard and they’d fit a hitch to equal it all out. Easy enough right ? Well the machine turned up hitchless that was arriving later on a pallet unfortunately they sent one for a cat 302.7 🤦🏼‍♂️ Que a lot of swearing. Luckily @Storrsy saved my bacon and leant me a hitch !. Now I must stress at this point that the salesmen throughout was amazing he was even on eBay trying to find me a hitch to keep me going and constantly on the phone or doing a 2 hour round trip to see me. We decided to go for a Miller hitch as they had one in stock and after another meeting we’re told it could be fitted within the next two weeks so really only minimal down time.

this didn’t happen and after leaving voicemails and sending emails I was basically given an engineers number and told to deal with him direct and not to contact the salesmen 🤦🏼‍♂️. It turns out it could of been fitted within 2 weeks but Miller weren’t willing to pay the £100 difference the fitter wanted ! Surely I should of been told and would of happily paid to put an end to the stress and loss of earning through hiring machines. It’s been horrific paying for machines with a brand new one sat in a shed ! Just felt completely let down by Miller all this caused by not wanting to pay £100 more leaving me without a machine for nearly 6 weeks

again Lee the cat salesmen was exemplary trying to source fitters , chasing fitters and basically sorting out all these Miller gremlins , he was available to talk to 24/7 pretty much and a proper down to earth guy who loves kit… also he brings doughnuts when there’s bad news
 
GazCro

GazCro

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I’m fed up with this story over that last few months so I shall say this only once 🤣

Basically I was having a ram guard fitted at the factory which turned out would delay the delivery by 4 weeks which wasn’t ideal. Cat said we could bin off the ram guard and they’d fit a hitch to equal it all out. Easy enough right ? Well the machine turned up hitchless that was arriving later on a pallet unfortunately they sent one for a cat 302.7 🤦🏼‍♂️ Que a lot of swearing. Luckily @Storrsy saved my bacon and leant me a hitch !. Now I must stress at this point that the salesmen throughout was amazing he was even on eBay trying to find me a hitch to keep me going and constantly on the phone or doing a 2 hour round trip to see me. We decided to go for a Miller hitch as they had one in stock and after another meeting we’re told it could be fitted within the next two weeks so really only minimal down time.

this didn’t happen and after leaving voicemails and sending emails I was basically given an engineers number and told to deal with him direct and not to contact the salesmen 🤦🏼‍♂️. It turns out it could of been fitted within 2 weeks but Miller weren’t willing to pay the £100 difference the fitter wanted ! Surely I should of been told and would of happily paid to put an end to the stress and loss of earning through hiring machines. It’s been horrific paying for machines with a brand new one sat in a shed ! Just felt completely let down by Miller all this caused by not wanting to pay £100 more leaving me without a machine for nearly 6 weeks

again Lee the cat salesmen was exemplary trying to source fitters , chasing fitters and basically sorting out all these Miller gremlins , he was available to talk to 24/7 pretty much and a proper down to earth guy who loves kit… also he brings doughnuts when there’s bad news
Unless I'm reading it wrong that reads like none of it is you're problem but ur dealer/cat have made their issue (£100) with miller you're problem instead of just getting it sorted even if it meant losing the £100 (must be kin tight margins on new digger sales).
 
Danny

Danny

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He’s mad to put a 24k digger out on self drive when you can get a 16k one that does the same.

Didnt cost him £24k cant remember what he paid but you will not buy a new 1.8t with a cab for £16k anywhere

Had Pforce wanting to xhire my micro during the week. Yeah £200 per week. We only get £130 per week. Bigger fool you then cheers.

Pop on in if your ever my way Danny

Got your number now Harry so never say never (y)
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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Unless I'm reading it wrong that reads like none of it is you're problem but ur dealer/cat have made their issue (£100) with miller you're problem instead of just getting it sorted even if it meant losing the £100 (must be kin tight margins on new digger sales).
You’ll have to excuse my typing I know what I’m saying putting it out there’s something else 🤣

Yep you’ve nailed it basically Miller didn’t want to pay the £100 so the fitter didn’t come then they spent 3 weeks chasing other fitters who never turned up only for me to ring the original fitter ( who they claimed the couldn’t get hold of but always answered first time ) said cut the middle man out I’ll pay you get it on the machine !

surely you’d ring me and say look it’s £100 more we can split it 2 ways and get one with it
 
GazCro

GazCro

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You’ll have to excuse my typing I know what I’m saying putting it out there’s something else 🤣

Yep you’ve nailed it basically Miller didn’t want to pay the £100 so the fitter didn’t come then they spent 3 weeks chasing other fitters who never turned up only for me to ring the original fitter ( who they claimed the couldn’t get hold of but always answered first time ) said cut the middle man out I’ll pay you get it on the machine !

surely you’d ring me and say look it’s £100 more we can split it 2 ways and get one with it
There's always more to it mind. Cat/dealer have probably screwed Miller down so far there's nowt in it for them and what you've discovered is how greedy dealer/cat is. Either way the £100 quid ain't yours to pay. It's things like this why the are called stealers imho.
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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There's always more to it mind. Cat/dealer have probably screwed Miller down so far there's nowt in it for them and what you've discovered is how greedy dealer/cat is. Either way the £100 quid ain't yours to pay. It's things like this why the are called stealers imho.
But when your desperate for a machine £100 is nothing compared to cross hiring , it was more the fact they just broke off contact absolute shambles
 
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