Sandhill Plant

[Shovelhands]

The farmer uses it as a track it’s also a rented yard so I want to be carful with cost but I don’t mind investing

Would we not turn it all up with tracks? What we have found with plannings is they end up sticking to the tracks and then get swept up

My yard is road plannings - its no good for the bit where you wash off as it all turns to shite.... its a battle to scrape the mud off the planning every time, ive been measuring up and was thinking 5m wide conc strip along shed side - then you can get walk nicely down each side of whatever it is your washing with room to move the lance about and still keep your feet on concrete both sides.

Obviously if your dealing with machines that are constantly coming into the yard muddy, then it’s a pain. And it’s not ideal as a wash bay!
You really can’t beat a good old slab of concrete, it’s the ultimate, but costs! Plannings on a good firm base are a good, cost effect, instant hard stand. Yes there’s draw backs, but it doesn’t sound like concrete is an option.

Ross, I see what your saying about them picking up, and indeed they will on very muddy tracks/tyres, but are these tracks and tyres only muddy because they are trampling about in that mess in the first place? If you eliminated the muddy mess, could you then operate in a clean, mud free, area? And thus not need to worry about picking up the plannings?

Yes, when they are freshly laid they can be easily churned up, but if compacted well, they will go down really hard. A road I have done on a regular basis, admittedly gets potholed here n there, but does get a lot of traffic, has very little loose material on it now, and in some areas there is no loose at all, to look at it you’d think it was hot rolled tarmac, it’s gone that solid!

 

[Brendan]

If you do a concrete pad it would need to be at least 200mm thick for the area your on about that 16m3 of concrete (@200mm thick) plus you'd need to stay off it for a good week.
As said concrete sleepers could be the way forward although for that area you would need around 126 of them so depending on price - eBay has some @ £9 a piece not including transport so not a huge amount of difference price wise although as soon as they are laid you can be on them. If you could go direct to network rail and get a saving on them could make a huge difference to costs.
Wooden bog mats would work also but are very, very expensive

 

[V8Druid]

I've seen a post somewhere in the last 12 months where concrete sleepers were used for a BIG area .... and were exceptionally effective - and instant.
aside from the cost of the sleepers, the tranny is the main killer, as they'm bloody heavy and don't get a lot on a truck

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/concrete...h=item468bbd9fd9:g:OG8AAOSwcT5b7yQz:rk:2:pf:0

fiver each here ATM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Concrete...h=item4b5780a50f:g:2sMAAOSw7thcA-zh:rk:1:pf:0

 

[Brendan]

Not far from ross either

 

[JD450A]

U1 Exemption Ross, scratch the s**t off down about 10' and get a local skip firm to tip a few tons of cleanish rubble in FOC, track it in with a drott and cover with plainings.

 

[V8Druid]

U1 Exemption Ross, scratch the s**t off down about 10' and get a local skip firm to tip a few tons of cleanish rubble in FOC, track it in with a drott and cover with plainings.

gonna want a lot more than a few tons if you go down 10ft Rory

 

[Regy53]

Interesting suggestion we was planing to do a concrete patch where we wash about 6 x 6 meters but its the outside that causes a headache as mentioned above, because we track in s**t we make a mess, if it was clean we wouldnt be to bad. Generally most of our machines dont make that much a of a mess.

I am going out with the tape monday to see how the concrete sleepers would fair.

 

[fred]

railway ballast is good topper as well if you can get it, large chunks and clean.

 

[JD450A]

gonna want a lot more than a few tons if you go down 10ft Rory

At £5 a ton tipping fee it's worth it,

 

[Furniss]

15cm thick with steel would be sufficient.

 

[Grahams]

Concrete sleepers look a good way to go. Virtually indestructable if you lay them right and if you move on you can take them with you.
I guess you know plenty of hauliers, so you may even be able to work in a back load if you are not in a desperate hurry.
Graham

 

[diggerjones]

Concrete sleepers advertised round here £8 each. Not that long ago you could pick your own up for nothing in crewe.

 

[Regy53]

Quote to buy all 63 of the local ones above doesn’t look to bad, its not my yard so I need to see what the farmer wants to do really. I do have a 6 meter x 30 meter strip down the side where they could work a treat

 

[Left hooker]

http://www.agriplantsolutions.com/services/yards-floors-and-bases/4

 

[Grahams]

http://www.agriplantsolutions.com/services/yards-floors-and-bases/4

That looks very interesting. The place I rent the communial areas are a mess of old scalpings and pot holes. The landlord keeps on about tarmacing or concreting it, but never gets round to it because of the cost. As I and the other tenants will untimately pay for it from rent increases it makes sense to keep the cost down.
Have you or anyone you know used them?

 

[Mogman]

May look into this myself

 

[Left hooker]

May look into this myself

That looks very interesting. The place I rent the communial areas are a mess of old scalpings and pot holes. The landlord keeps on about tarmacing or concreting it, but never gets round to it because of the cost. As I and the other tenants will untimately pay for it from rent increases it makes sense to keep the cost down.
Have you or anyone you know used them?

Did find out it works out at £1.50 a square meter on a large job the guy said and what ever is there basically gets turned into concrete they did Ivor king pilling yard that was churned up now is solid even when tracking there big pilling machines around

 

[Mogman]

Well was thinking of doing the yard but it’s 16,000 meters square so £24k May have to rethink it

 

[V8Druid]

Well was thinking of doing the yard but it’s 16,000 meters square so £24k May have to rethink it

3.85 acres Mog ? thought the one you'd bought was a lot less ..... or you got a different one ?? ...... be cheap for nigh on 4 acres of concrete

 

[Mogman]

3.85 acres Mog ? thought the one you'd bought was a lot less ..... or you got a different one ?? ...... be cheap for nigh on 4 acres of concrete

May have got my sums wrong .16 ha so 1,600 meters so £2,400 sounds better may give them a ring
It’s a 1/3 of an acre