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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I thought it was a bit savage price wise Graham .... esp considering blade and new tracks 😬
dunno .. deffo had a tough time ... thought the augers were a decent price though
 
wee_gus

wee_gus

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I worked in plant in London in the 80s for an Irish outfit Marron. There were a few around London then . 2 off them have just turned up in the highlands ! Carey’s and Pat Flannery .
Carey’s been up in the highlands a few years, definitely been since around 2015 with plant, they had hitachi 20t and 13t at the MOWI plant out at glenmoriston
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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Carey’s been up in the highlands a few years, definitely been since around 2015 with plant, they had hitachi 20t and 13t at the MOWI plant out at glenmoriston
They are still in the area it’s at invermoriston I’ve seen them
 
Left hooker

Left hooker

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Rang my hitachi rep to see how things are coming on and what was ment to be a march delivery is looking like end of april as japan is building them and there at the docks waiting.
They can't get container ships for shipping them around the world
He also said they have stopped taking orders for the rest of this year
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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Cats been out back a month , fair play to the rep he turned up out of the blue explained it all bribed me and went on again to be fair he couldn’t of been better seeing as were only 3 weeks behind schedule
 
Gunners

Gunners

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Err guys.... JCB only out to April on 1.5 tonners, Factory build would be early Summer. They have just taken on more staff to ramp up production, no border issues, shipping etc. Maybe now is the time we support our British manufacturing industry? Wasn't that part of the Brexit dream?
Or will we all be renewing our BMW's/ VW's this year and complaining about the lead times and price hikes?
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Err guys.... JCB only out to April on 1.5 tonners, Factory build would be early Summer. They have just taken on more staff to ramp up production, no border issues, shipping etc. Maybe now is the time we support our British manufacturing industry? Wasn't that part of the Brexit dream?
Or will we all be renewing our BMW's/ VW's this year and complaining about the lead times and price hikes?
what ..... BL going back into production??? :giggle::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: ........ not a lot of choice for UK built velocipedes
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Err guys.... JCB only out to April on 1.5 tonners, Factory build would be early Summer. They have just taken on more staff to ramp up production, no border issues, shipping etc. Maybe now is the time we support our British manufacturing industry? Wasn't that part of the Brexit dream?
Or will we all be renewing our BMW's/ VW's this year and complaining about the lead times and price hikes?
I tried...but try and find a UK built Defender🤬 but I agree be nice to support a "home brand" we can rely on.
 
Gunners

Gunners

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I tried...but try and find a UK built Defender🤬 but I agree be nice to support a "home brand" we can rely on.
We've got the Ineos Grenadier coming..... oh wait - made in a Merc factory in Europe :ROFLMAO:
Surely we can all drive Transits instead!..... Oh they moved from Southampton a few years ago.

Aston Martins for everyone!
 
Antony Holmes

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We've got the Ineos Grenadier coming..... oh wait - made in a Merc factory in Europe :ROFLMAO:
Surely we can all drive Transits instead!..... Oh they moved from Southampton a few years ago.

Aston Martins for everyone!
JCB missed a trick could have built a defender copy with all of thair 4x4 experience such a shame
 
Left hooker

Left hooker

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Err guys.... JCB only out to April on 1.5 tonners, Factory build would be early Summer. They have just taken on more staff to ramp up production, no border issues, shipping etc. Maybe now is the time we support our British manufacturing industry? Wasn't that part of the Brexit dream?
Or will we all be renewing our BMW's/ VW's this year and complaining about the lead times and price hikes?
Getting plate steel might be an issue also when I went to factory tour couple years ago they were struggling to get staff as they have got anyone in the area working for them already
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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Err guys.... JCB only out to April on 1.5 tonners, Factory build would be early Summer. They have just taken on more staff to ramp up production, no border issues, shipping etc. Maybe now is the time we support our British manufacturing industry? Wasn't that part of the Brexit dream?
Or will we all be renewing our BMW's/ VW's this year and complaining about the lead times and price hikes?

Jcb was a very close second but didn’t have half the features of the cat which to be honest once I’d tried I didn’t like the thought of buying something else and wishing I’d waited for it if that makes sense
 
GazCro

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Jcb was a very close second but didn’t have half the features of the cat which to be honest once I’d tried I didn’t like the thought of buying something else and wishing I’d waited for it if that makes sense
That's a very good point about waiting. If you're desperate for a digger for upcoming work and need it fast then under current circumstances you'll have to buy what you can get. But ffs if you can wait be patient and buy the one you WANT to own otherwise you'll always be thinking what if. On the other hand you might but something which surprises you long term.
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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That's a very good point about waiting. If you're desperate for a digger for upcoming work and need it fast then under current circumstances you'll have to buy what you can get. But ffs if you can wait be patient and buy the one you WANT to own otherwise you'll always be thinking what if. On the other hand you might but something which surprises you long term.
Like I said the jcb 19-c or whatever it is was a great little machine salesmen was great considering my previous experience even the part ex was good just unfortunatly they don’t have lots of the little bits the cat did , admittedly it was cheaper and the dealer is closed but seeing as I only run one machine for myself it’s worth waiting for šŸ‘šŸ½ Might have more work by then to 🤣🤣🤣
 
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DaveDCB

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Err guys.... JCB only out to April on 1.5 tonners, Factory build would be early Summer. They have just taken on more staff to ramp up production, no border issues, shipping etc. Maybe now is the time we support our British manufacturing industry? Wasn't that part of the Brexit dream?
Or will we all be renewing our BMW's/ VW's this year and complaining about the lead times and price hikes?
Take the quoted lead times with a pinch of salt, all my new Jcb’s were delayed over the years.. quite a lot sometimes šŸ™„
 
Gunners

Gunners

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were bad enough with Land Rover building 'em :oops::oops:
Really Druid?
As a man who manufactured and engineered in the UK and has done some fine work yourself in the past, your view of two of British manufacturing’s most successful exports, summed up in that statement, is disappointing to hear.
You own a jcb, thwaites dumper, and several land rover products INCLUDING A P38 Range Rover!
I think you need to reminding what a forward thinking, progressive and leading country we have been in the past when it comes to engineering, and we stand a damn good chance of getting there again one day, but it won’t happen if people keep the old sayings going, running the UK down, even when the manufacturer has turned a corner.
Kids will grow up believing everything made in Britain is unreliable and poorly made because ā€œthat’s what I heardā€. They won’t be interested in becoming an engineer themselves, it’s for stupid people who make crap. They will buy German or Japanese, or Chinese - UK manufacturing dies and I’m sure some smart arse will be stood there as the last factory closes saying I told you so - good riddance to UK products, everyone else makes stuff better.

Well I don’t believe the UK is past it’s sell buy date yet and whilst the products might not be perfect, I will be buying British where I can, supporting UK jobs and looking forward to the day that our exports are wanted the world over.

Rant over.
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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Really Druid?
As a man who manufactured and engineered in the UK and has done some fine work yourself in the past, your view of two of British manufacturing’s most successful exports, summed up in that statement, is disappointing to hear.
You own a jcb, thwaites dumper, and several land rover products INCLUDING A P38 Range Rover!
I think you need to reminding what a forward thinking, progressive and leading country we have been in the past when it comes to engineering, and we stand a damn good chance of getting there again one day, but it won’t happen if people keep the old sayings going, running the UK down, even when the manufacturer has turned a corner.
Kids will grow up believing everything made in Britain is unreliable and poorly made because ā€œthat’s what I heardā€. They won’t be interested in becoming an engineer themselves, it’s for stupid people who make crap. They will buy German or Japanese, or Chinese - UK manufacturing dies and I’m sure some smart arse will be stood there as the last factory closes saying I told you so - good riddance to UK products, everyone else makes stuff better.

Well I don’t believe the UK is past it’s sell buy date yet and whilst the products might not be perfect, I will be buying British where I can, supporting UK jobs and looking forward to the day that our exports are wanted the world over.

Rant over.
That’s you told buddy 🤣🤣🤣
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Really Druid?
As a man who manufactured and engineered in the UK and has done some fine work yourself in the past, your view of two of British manufacturing’s most successful exports, summed up in that statement, is disappointing to hear.
You own a jcb, thwaites dumper, and several land rover products INCLUDING A P38 Range Rover!
I think you need to reminding what a forward thinking, progressive and leading country we have been in the past when it comes to engineering, and we stand a damn good chance of getting there again one day, but it won’t happen if people keep the old sayings going, running the UK down, even when the manufacturer has turned a corner.
Kids will grow up believing everything made in Britain is unreliable and poorly made because ā€œthat’s what I heardā€. They won’t be interested in becoming an engineer themselves, it’s for stupid people who make crap. They will buy German or Japanese, or Chinese - UK manufacturing dies and I’m sure some smart arse will be stood there as the last factory closes saying I told you so - good riddance to UK products, everyone else makes stuff better.

Well I don’t believe the UK is past it’s sell buy date yet and whilst the products might not be perfect, I will be buying British where I can, supporting UK jobs and looking forward to the day that our exports are wanted the world over.

Rant over.
I've had enough land rovers, rangies, discos, SD1s and numerous other British vehicles in the last 46 years and taken hundreds of them apart, to make informed comment IMHDO.
A lot of them could have been great, but for corner cutting, skimping and lack of 'interest' in their market.
WTF puts body panels together in primer - LR....
WTF sandwiches ali and steel together with no consideration to cathodic action - LR.
WTF takes anything out the parts bin that'll fit, 'cos it's more convenient than making a better item - LR .......
need I go on.???:unsure::oops:
LRs were always known for their unreliability, fragility (in certain aspects), poor assembly, RUST problems, the list is endless.

yes JakieB is a great old tool ...... on which their reputation was founded along with the old 8 series, etc., that James and many others (me included) has respect for ... pity they didn't carry on as they once did ... building a quality solid product ... that the paint stayed on for 34 years :rolleyes: ..... 34 weeks seems to be an achievement these days, from consensus :unsure:

like so much made in the UK the phrase 'could've been great, but for....' .....fits and .........."if the cap fits ...... "

yes I still have two of LR's products ...... dunno WTF to replace 'em with :LOL: ....

As for Mr Thwaites 6 tonner ..... Awesome tool ... the alligator is 50 years old and 'd probably start tomorrow if I went out and swung it over, once bled and fettled
British manufacturing just lost its way and its hunger to produce quality, world leading products - it settled for a mediocre, that'll do/pass muster, attitude.

You and your 8026 have impressed me, as has James' tool too (be nice to see more of James's) .... but how're they gonna look in 20/30/40/50 years time?
as good as their predecessors?
 
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DaveDCB

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In reality a lot of products are now British assembled and Chinese made...
 
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