Whites quick hitches and buckets

[Gunners]

Afternoon gents. Looking for feedback from you all on any Whites hitches you may have. Good and bad feedback. And on their buckets if you have any. I have been contacted directly by Whites after posting my Kubota U10 review on Youtube where I mention my dislike for the Whites hitch, based on machines I have hired with low hours and excessive play, especially noticeable in the grading bucket.

Whites are keen to point out various factors than can influence play in a hitch and have invited me to visit their factory in Bristol to see how they design, make and their quality control process. As you know I am an avid supported of British manufacturing and would like to see more of it. However I stand by my comments on the play in sub 300hr hitches being excessive. I would love to go armed with some genuine feedback for them to have a proper discussion about it.

I would love to know, how you have found the Whites hitch, how many hours it has on it, what brand of buckets you use with it, what machine its on. What you like and dislike about the design too.

Thanks

 

[sjs5060]

exactly the same as you, seem the wear pretty quick on the manual hitches, to be fair the buckets are fairly well designed

 

[Sloany]

Afternoon gents. Looking for feedback from you all on any Whites hitches you may have. Good and bad feedback. And on their buckets if you have any. I have been contacted directly by Whites after posting my Kubota U10 review on Youtube where I mention my dislike for the Whites hitch, based on machines I have hired with low hours and excessive play, especially noticeable in the grading bucket.

Whites are keen to point out various factors than can influence play in a hitch and have invited me to visit their factory in Bristol to see how they design, make and their quality control process. As you know I am an avid supported of British manufacturing and would like to see more of it. However I stand by my comments on the play in sub 300hr hitches being excessive. I would love to go armed with some genuine feedback for them to have a proper discussion about it.

I would love to know, how you have found the Whites hitch, how many hours it has on it, what brand of buckets you use with it, what machine its on. What you like and dislike about the design too.

Thanks

I have a Whites hydraulic hitch on my Kubota U27 480 hours, use breaker for half an hour most days & no issues, all Whites buckets. Also have a U10 with a manual Whites hitch same use as the U27, 100 hours no issues yet. Both machines are mainly breaking out and excavating driveways so are changing from breaker to bucket several times a day.

David

 

[Gunners]

I have a Whites hydraulic hitch on my Kubota U27 480 hours, use breaker for half an hour most days & no issues, all Whites buckets. Also have a U10 with a manual Whites hitch same use as the U27, 100 hours no issues yet. Both machines are mainly breaking out and excavating driveways so are changing from breaker to bucket several times a day.

David

Thanks David.

They did raise the point that they have no control over buckets which they do not manufacture. And in fairness to them, its always been Rinox buckets on the machines I have used with a Whites hitch. Could be more a bucket thing than the hitch? Either way if it does turn out to be the case, its worth other owners knowing this when purchasing a hitch for their machine

 

[Gunners]

exactly the same as you, seem the wear pretty quick on the manual hitches, to be fair the buckets are fairly well designed

Whites hitch with Whites buckets?

 

[doobin]

On both my Whites hydrualic hitches, they came with the ram topping out at the pin centres of 125mm. Every other manufacturer sets them to something like 3mm past, so the pins are under tension and the buckets don't go slack with the smallest bit of wear. On the E27, I had a set of three buckets supplied with it, and the brand new buckets in the brand new hitch were loose due to that error. Yet they made the same error a year later with my E19 hitch.

Both hitches have also had hydraulic ram failures in under a week from new too. Some serious quality control issues need addressing. That said, Martin at Whites has been bending over backwards to sort things out. They sent out a mechanic both times who was worse than useless- self employed and turned up in a car with some tools in the boot. The fix for the ram travel was simply a plate added in, which works fine. However, it wasn't machined quite correctly and fouled the jaws, so needed to be ground down. I did it for the mechanic on the first hitch (after pointing out the problem to him myself) as he didn't have an angle grinder On the second hitch, he did it whilst I was away and I came back to exactly the same problem. The twat hadn't even tested that it would pick a bucket up, much less that it would hold it tight. So I had to fix that properly myself as he was back home and didn't want to know about coming out to sort it properly.

Hopefully Whites have stopped using him. As it stands, I will strip the hitch to find out what's leaking myself and Martin at Whites says they will pay me instead of the mechanic. He seems a gent to deal with, but these problems should't have happened on one hitch, let alone two.

 

[Left hooker]

If the hydraulic hitches had more travel past the pin center spec of each hitch it would take up the wear and not be lose after a few hundred hours

 

[Randla]

Thanks David.

They did raise the point that they have no control over buckets which they do not manufacture. And in fairness to them, its always been Rinox buckets on the machines I have used with a Whites hitch. Could be more a bucket thing than the hitch? Either way if it does turn out to be the case, its worth other owners knowing this when purchasing a hitch for their machine

I know of Whites, Ollie - but I was slightly surprised about your comment on the buckets. I thought they made their own and, having just checked on their website, that's what it says.Whites products

On Edit: maybe you were right first time. They also make diggers If you are going to visit them, it might be useful to know exactly what they do make.

 

[hiluxman]

My experience is they are shite. I had one replaced at 50hours because of wear.

I specifically asked for a none whites hitch on my last machine, so they gave me a geith wedge lock type thing and I'm not mega Impressed with that either.

The best hitch I've had was on the cat mini. It was a cat branded Miller made in the UK, that was a lovely hitch and you could flick a bucket and it would lock on too. The second cat hitch was a Miller made in China, slightly rougher in the casting but still a good hitch.

 

[Nick...]

I’ve never seen anything favourable written about whites products on social media and several complaints.only thing I ever had from them was a quick hitch for the front bucket on a case backhoe.the slack in it was unbelievable and it got sent back to be modified and when it returned again it was just as bad and the sparks from cutting the steel had rusted into the paint and looked aweful.it was returned again and I got my money back.luckily it was supplied by a dealer who fought my case.builder I work for had a takeuchi 210 with whites buckets and hitch.they are ok but does very little work,probably only done 60/70 hours in 3 years.the quality is not comparable to harford and rhinox buckets I also use.don’t like to knock British manufacturers but just saying as it is.they are no worse than some others I’ve experienced to be fair.
nick...

 

[doobin]

Stickland make bloody good buckets for mini diggers. Can't recommend them enough for 1.5t buckets.

 

[JD450A]

The best thing on a whites hitch is the retained safety pin on there spring hitch.

 

[GazCro]

Thanks David.

They did raise the point that they have no control over buckets which they do not manufacture. And in fairness to them, its always been Rinox buckets on the machines I have used with a Whites hitch. Could be more a bucket thing than the hitch? Either way if it does turn out to be the case, its worth other owners knowing this when purchasing a hitch for their machine

Wonder who makes their buckets then?

 

[Nick...]

Wonder who makes their buckets then?

Probably some Chinese shite.
nick...

 

[V8Druid]

Thanks David.

They did raise the point that they have no control over buckets which they do not manufacture. And in fairness to them, its always been Rinox buckets on the machines I have used with a Whites hitch. Could be more a bucket thing than the hitch? Either way if it does turn out to be the case, its worth other owners knowing this when purchasing a hitch for their machine

well they do - or should have ......
do they not have any quality control on what they buy in? ....
if only ensuring the pins are centred correctly and parallel to each other and the cutting edge of course ....
if the hitch only has adequate movement to trap a given dimension, that travel would need to be at least 4-5mm in excess of the pin spread, to cater for inevitable wear in the pin's surfaces. If their 'bought in buckets are out of tolerance you're stymied 'fore you start

 

[T whiting]

When I worked for a plant hire company we had 3 new 3t machines dropped off with whites semi hitches the graders fitted fine but the center's were different on the digging buckets (whites buckets) so none of them would fit whites took them back and modified them so they fit

I wouldn't rate rhinox buckets either I have a 4 foot and a ditcher for the duck that were cheap going through euros but both needed welding before they were useable and there 1.5t ditching buckets are very soft and often came back from self drive hire like a smily dace, luckily they were so soft they would bend back on the corner of the blade

 

[GazCro]

Probably some Chinese shite.
nick...

I've always thought there micro and 1.5 tonner buckets look v harford although I've always thought for the price harford are ok. Maybe they are chinese copies although i understand that would be hard to believe .

 

[Shovelhands]

well they do - or should have ......
do they not have any quality control on what they buy in? ....
if only ensuring the pins are centred correctly and parallel to each other and the cutting edge of course ....
if the hitch only has adequate movement to trap a given dimension, that travel would need to be at least 4-5mm in excess of the pin spread, to cater for inevitable wear in the pin's surfaces. If their 'bought in buckets are out of tolerance you're stymied 'fore you start

I will have a guess that what they actually mean is, they have no control over buckets that are used with their hitches that they do not manufacture. Ie their hitch with Rhinox or Strickland buckets? Not that they are supplying buckets with their name on that they don’t make themselves. Which I believe plenty of the other actually do, Strickland (Shitland) being one of them I think!

 

[JD450A]

Perhaps whites could provide me with a hitch and I will see how many hours it takes to break?

 

[Russell]

I think I was told rinox are Pakistan or Indian.
My only experience of whites is they would not tell me what a 600 micro bucket weighed.
I watched that Kubota vid the other night and wondered if it was someone off here. Have you done a bobcat one too? E 19 or E20?