River dredging

Grahams

Grahams

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Saw this in the paper today. Farmer fed up with waiting ten years for Environment agency to act got his stretch of river cleared. Unfortunately the EA seem more interested in protecting the wildlife than stopping peoples homes flooding.
 
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Brendan

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Saw this in the paper today. Farmer fed up with waiting ten years for Environment agency to act got his stretch of river cleared. Unfortunately the EA seem more interested in protecting the wildlife than stopping peoples homes flooding.
Seen it earlier was waiting for it to pop up on here.
To be fair it's a neat job
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

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Without knowing the full facts I would not want to judge!! But I can understand why some people take matters into hand....with a bull dozer.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Without knowing the full facts I would not want to judge!! But I can understand why some people take matters into hand....with a bull dozer.
looking at the teeth marks in the bank I'd say their "bull dozer" was more likely a 360 ... and none of these smug gits have to suffer the consequences of a blocked and overflowing river on their homes
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

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looking at the teeth marks in the bank I'd say their "bull dozer" was more likely a 360 ... and none of these smug gits have to suffer the consequences of a blocked and overflowing river on their homes
Do you thing the clipboards know the difference between a bull dozer and a 360!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Grahams

Grahams

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I've often wondered about reporters and plant. A huge amount of times they call it the wrong thing. If they can't get something as easy as that right what are the chances they got the rest of the story correct? They just doesn't seem to care if it is accurate, but mainstream media then spend a lot of time whining about people putting up "fake" news on the internet.
It makes me wonder how much other news is incorrect.
 
Grahams

Grahams

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Can’t read the article as not registered. This was posted on the farm forum....


love the guys quote about clipboards!
Sorry, thought you were allowed to look at some many articles a day without subscription.
What is also interesting is when I read the article yesterday there was a picture of EA arriving mob handed with the police. Looking at it today they have removed that picture. It showed the EA in a bad light and I guess they lent on the Telegraph to remove it.

Environment Agency staff use a drone to survey the riverbank  along a 1km stretch of the River Lugg

Environment Agency staff use a drone to survey the riverbank along a 1km stretch of the River Lugg Credit: Alamy Live News

Winding its way through the peaceful Herefordshire countryside, the Lugg is reputed to be one of the prettiest waterways in the land.
So when a farmer employed a 16-ton bulldozer to dredge the river bed and strip a mile-long stretch of the bank of trees and bushes, there was widespread dismay and disgust.
John Price, a local potato and cattle farmer, was accused of committing vandalism on a grand scale, as the Environment Agency announced it had launched an urgent investigation.
But on Friday night the 66-year-old, who lives next to the river on a farm in Kingsland, near Leominster, said he had acted to protect locals in the nearby hamlet whose homes were devastated in last year's floods.
Villagers said they had pleaded with the Environment Agency to clear the blocked river, but their appeals fell on deaf ears and Mr Price had acted out of a sense of community spirit.
Local potato and cattle farmer John Price

Local potato and cattle farmer John Price Credit: SWNS
On Friday night, Mr Price admitted bulldozing and cutting trees down but claimed he acted with permission.
He said he had been asked to carry out the work for free as he was fixing the erosion of the river bed and was helping solve issues caused by last year's floods.
He said: "I'm a Herefordshire farmer and have lived at Day Farm and was born here at home. I have never moved and have watched this river all my life and no one knows this river better than myself. I have always looked after the river. I was asked to stop the erosion because I'm the land owner so I'm responsible for the river.
"It was up to the Environmental Agency to look after these rivers but they don't do any work and haven't got any money to do the work because they spend it all on clipboards."
He added: "I have not pushed any trees out and I haven't knocked any trees down I have only cleared what ones came down in the flood.
Mr Price went on: "The flooding has been getting substantially worse over the last 10 years and will continue to get worse if a certain amount of work is not done like I have been allowed to do by the Environment Agency.
"I have got the support of the village and parish council and they had a meeting especially about the work being done. They all said what a wonderful job John Price has done and recommended that they send me a letter thanking me for that work and saving the river and helping the flooding."
The Environment Agency said it was taking the matter "very seriously" and had launched an urgent investigation.
The local wildlife trust said the actions would devastate animal life along the river, including otters, kingfishers, salmon and trout.
Residents of the area leapt to Mr Price's defence and said they had been appealing to the Environment Agency and council for years to tackle blockages in the waterway, but had been ignored.
Kelly Flook, 40, who lives in one of the houses flooded during Storm Dennis last year, said Mr Price acted because their pleas had been repeatedly ignored.
She told The Daily Telegraph: "I have spent the past 10 months living in a mobile home on my parents' driveway with my children because our home was flooded in Storm Dennis. I have spent a fortune rebuilding our home and we are still not back in it yet. All the locals have been petitioning to have the river cleared but we have been ignored."
She added: "John has acted in the best interests of the local community."
On Friday, 14 officials from agencies including the Environment Agency, the Forestry Commission, West Mercia Police and Herefordshire Council descended on the scene.
Dave Throup, the Environment Agency area manager, said: "We are aware of reports of damage to the River Lugg, which due to its environmental importance is protected through Site of Special Scientific Interest status.
"We are treating this very seriously along with Natural England and the Forestry Commission who have taken immediate action in an attempt to prevent any further works at the site."
Helen Stace, of the Herefordshire Wildlife Trust, said: "This is nothing short of a tragedy that will have dire consequences for the wildlife and water quality downstream. This is not about protecting the local area from floods, in my opinion the work that has been done will actually have the opposite effect."

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Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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I've often wondered about reporters and plant. A huge amount of times they call it the wrong thing. If they can't get something as easy as that right what are the chances they got the rest of the story correct? They just doesn't seem to care if it is accurate, but mainstream media then spend a lot of time whining about people putting up "fake" news on the internet.
It makes me wonder how much other news is incorrect.
This... absolutely bang on! Mainstream hate social media ..as it's no filter and actually if you use common sense and know the author a damn site more accurate than some reporters crap, horse's mouth comes to mind. Look at Trump ! Like him or loathe him he gets direct to the people and avoids the whole crowd.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Sorry, thought you were allowed to look at some many articles a day without subscription.
What is also interesting is when I read the article yesterday there was a picture of EA arriving mob handed with the police. Looking at it today they have removed that picture. It showed the EA in a bad light and I guess they lent on the Telegraph to remove it.

Environment Agency staff use a drone to survey the riverbank  along a 1km stretch of the River Lugg

Environment Agency staff use a drone to survey the riverbank along a 1km stretch of the River Lugg Credit: Alamy Live News

Winding its way through the peaceful Herefordshire countryside, the Lugg is reputed to be one of the prettiest waterways in the land.
So when a farmer employed a 16-ton bulldozer to dredge the river bed and strip a mile-long stretch of the bank of trees and bushes, there was widespread dismay and disgust.
John Price, a local potato and cattle farmer, was accused of committing vandalism on a grand scale, as the Environment Agency announced it had launched an urgent investigation.
But on Friday night the 66-year-old, who lives next to the river on a farm in Kingsland, near Leominster, said he had acted to protect locals in the nearby hamlet whose homes were devastated in last year's floods.
Villagers said they had pleaded with the Environment Agency to clear the blocked river, but their appeals fell on deaf ears and Mr Price had acted out of a sense of community spirit.
Local potato and cattle farmer John Price

Local potato and cattle farmer John Price Credit: SWNS
On Friday night, Mr Price admitted bulldozing and cutting trees down but claimed he acted with permission.
He said he had been asked to carry out the work for free as he was fixing the erosion of the river bed and was helping solve issues caused by last year's floods.
He said: "I'm a Herefordshire farmer and have lived at Day Farm and was born here at home. I have never moved and have watched this river all my life and no one knows this river better than myself. I have always looked after the river. I was asked to stop the erosion because I'm the land owner so I'm responsible for the river.
"It was up to the Environmental Agency to look after these rivers but they don't do any work and haven't got any money to do the work because they spend it all on clipboards."
He added: "I have not pushed any trees out and I haven't knocked any trees down I have only cleared what ones came down in the flood.
Mr Price went on: "The flooding has been getting substantially worse over the last 10 years and will continue to get worse if a certain amount of work is not done like I have been allowed to do by the Environment Agency.
"I have got the support of the village and parish council and they had a meeting especially about the work being done. They all said what a wonderful job John Price has done and recommended that they send me a letter thanking me for that work and saving the river and helping the flooding."
The Environment Agency said it was taking the matter "very seriously" and had launched an urgent investigation.
The local wildlife trust said the actions would devastate animal life along the river, including otters, kingfishers, salmon and trout.
Residents of the area leapt to Mr Price's defence and said they had been appealing to the Environment Agency and council for years to tackle blockages in the waterway, but had been ignored.
Kelly Flook, 40, who lives in one of the houses flooded during Storm Dennis last year, said Mr Price acted because their pleas had been repeatedly ignored.
She told The Daily Telegraph: "I have spent the past 10 months living in a mobile home on my parents' driveway with my children because our home was flooded in Storm Dennis. I have spent a fortune rebuilding our home and we are still not back in it yet. All the locals have been petitioning to have the river cleared but we have been ignored."
She added: "John has acted in the best interests of the local community."
On Friday, 14 officials from agencies including the Environment Agency, the Forestry Commission, West Mercia Police and Herefordshire Council descended on the scene.
Dave Throup, the Environment Agency area manager, said: "We are aware of reports of damage to the River Lugg, which due to its environmental importance is protected through Site of Special Scientific Interest status.
"We are treating this very seriously along with Natural England and the Forestry Commission who have taken immediate action in an attempt to prevent any further works at the site."
Helen Stace, of the Herefordshire Wildlife Trust, said: "This is nothing short of a tragedy that will have dire consequences for the wildlife and water quality downstream. This is not about protecting the local area from floods, in my opinion the work that has been done will actually have the opposite effect."

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So basically a farmer does what the EA will spend several million of concrete on in 2027 that prob won't work or something and he's sorted it locals are happy good job well done...👌
And is it any wonder folk are sick tired of EA non job idiots
 
Grahams

Grahams

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You can see why they have no money left. 14 officials went to check what a good job he had done. Given most of the whining is about saving the world I bet they didn't walk or cycle there. From memory the photo that was removed showed cars as well as people.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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You can see why they have no money left. 14 officials went to check what a good job he had done. Given most of the whining is about saving the world I bet they didn't walk or cycle there. From memory the photo that was removed showed cars as well as people.
Yes I saw that...few police officers tied up as well 🙄
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

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Problem also when 14 from 1 agency go there how can they not suffer from groupthink and work politics etc etc. Would take a brave man out of 14 to say cracking job old boy carry on
I do like being that sort of lone voice when I see crazy ness being spoken on mass!!
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Where's Rory at ? I'd like his opinion on this.☺️
 
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