Routy56 - can you just....

[Grahams]

Looking good as always. You leave a very tidy finish.
I think it might be asking a bit much of the little machine to pull a 4 foot stump out. If he got someone in with a decent tracked stump grinder they would take the stumps down 30cm under the surface without leaving a massive hole to increase the subsidence. Not an expensive job.
Also, by "investment", I take it he will eventually want to sell. Won't he need the subsidence fixed by a company that can provide warrantees otherwise it will be unmortgagable.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

I’m surprised he got permission to take all the oaks down there tbh (unless they were causing subsidence to neighbouring properties). It looks as though they were prominent features in the landscape and obviously predated the house. I’d have thought a strict tree officer would have said ‘rebuild the house properly to allow for the trees on site’...

 

[Grahams]

Our local council has removed TPOs on most of the trees in our area for some reason. We had a couple of nice trees a shielding our view of the house behind us. Unfortunately they were at the bottom of their garden rather than ours and as soon as the TPO came off they cut them down as they didn't want the ongoing maintenance. Now they have been complaining about the view of our garage!

 

[Jimoz]

I wouldn't be doing anything structurally for 2 years. Surely soil will need to find a new equilibrium now tress have gone?

 

[Routy56]

Looking good as always. You leave a very tidy finish.
I think it might be asking a bit much of the little machine to pull a 4 foot stump out. If he got someone in with a decent tracked stump grinder they would take the stumps down 30cm under the surface without leaving a massive hole to increase the subsidence. Not an expensive job.
Also, by "investment", I take it he will eventually want to sell. Won't he need the subsidence fixed by a company that can provide warrantees otherwise it will be unmortgagable.

Thanks for the positive feedback
Yep big oak is too much for my tiny machine. And yes he is thinking about a stump grinder service.
And yes it will need to have a proper subsidence fix if a future buyer wants a mortgage.
We have discussed all this..........

 

[Routy56]

I’m surprised he got permission to take all the oaks down there tbh (unless they were causing subsidence to neighbouring properties). It looks as though they were prominent features in the landscape and obviously predated the house. I’d have thought a strict tree officer would have said ‘rebuild the house properly to allow for the trees on site’...

Yep it took a while. They were 4 of 9 oaks subject to the TPO. 2 in his garden and one in a neighbours garden who had also got subsidence
So without knowing what the thinking was behind it all, my best guess is a compromise.
Not having an experience with TPOs it has been interesting

 

[Routy56]

I wouldn't be doing anything structurally for 2 years. Surely soil will need to find a new equilibrium now tress have gone?

Yep think you are right. And again not having experience in this field we shall wait and see.
Although my understanding is that the ground often heaves back once the moisture returns.....
No doubt an 'expert' in this area may pop up with what to do and I'll pass it on to my bruv

 

[Routy56]

Our local council has removed TPOs on most of the trees in our area for some reason. We had a couple of nice trees a shielding our view of the house behind us. Unfortunately they were at the bottom of their garden rather than ours and as soon as the TPO came off they cut them down as they didn't want the ongoing maintenance. Now they have been complaining about the view of our garage!

We had a similar thing here although there was not a TPO.
New neighbours moved in and cut down all the trees and put a 'towny type' 6 foot fence up all round.
Then they complained to Planning Enforcement about my barn at the end of their garden.
Built it there about 20 years ago tucking it out of view and out of the way.
Enforcement officer said, "Don't worry it's been up more than four years and used as part of the enjoyment of your property"
At the time I had a 1959 classic Austin 3T lorry in there

 

[V8Druid]

Our local council has removed TPOs on most of the trees in our area for some reason. We had a couple of nice trees a shielding our view of the house behind us. Unfortunately they were at the bottom of their garden rather than ours and as soon as the TPO came off they cut them down as they didn't want the ongoing maintenance. Now they have been complaining about the view of our garage!

Karma .... or ..... tough sh1t .... select as appropriate

 

[Grahams]

Karma .... or ..... tough sh1t .... select as appropriate

Trouble is they were nice trees and screened the monstrosity they live in from us. At least they are unhappy as well and only have themselves to blame.

 

[Cyberprog]

Trouble is they were nice trees and screened the monstrosity they live in from us. At least they are unhappy as well and only have themselves to blame.

We used to live in central Bristol. We had two massive evergreens and they shielded the house nicely from the houses behind. The old neighbours moved and new ones came in, and they were always moaning that the trees were too tall and blocked all the light, but didn't want to pay to have them topped, only to be removed. So every year or two we would have them moaning, then eventually begrudgingly they'd split the bill with my parents.

 

[V8Druid]

We used to live in central Bristol. We had two massive evergreens and they shielded the house nicely from the houses behind. The old neighbours moved and new ones came in, and they were always moaning that the trees were too tall and blocked all the light, but didn't want to pay to have them topped, only to be removed. So every year or two we would have them moaning, then eventually begrudgingly they'd split the bill with my parents.

attitude would have been ..... they were there when you recently bought the house .... or did your guide dog make the purchase ?

 

[Cyberprog]

My father liked to remind them of that. The 50/50 thing didn't happen until after he died as my mother was a bit happier to compromise!

 

[V8Druid]

My father liked to remind them of that. The 50/50 thing didn't happen until after he died as my mother was a bit happier to compromise!

"you pay for it ... we'll consider it "

 

[Monkeybusiness]

I’m a tree surgeon and boundary trees are constantly an issue. Nobody likes next door’s trees. Ever. And people always move in to a new house and want to fell everything in sight.
It becomes difficult not telling customers that they are fxxking idiots tbh.

 

[Routy56]

I’m a tree surgeon and boundary trees are constantly an issue. Nobody likes next door’s trees. Ever. And people always move in to a new house and want to fell everything in sight.
It becomes difficult not telling customers that they are fxxking idiots tbh.

Total respect for you as a tree surgeon. Great to have your advice on this forum
All the guys I have used have been so professional.
3 years ago I had some guys in to remove 2 dead white willows on my boundary behind my barn.
Leaning the wrong way for me to tackle

Unloaded outside the front of my barn and tracked round the back....

Great piece of kit giving superb access.

Here's a shot of their nice cherry picker for you all to dribble over
You are absolutely right about boundary trees.
There's a neighbour a few doors away with 3 acres and 7 different boundaries.
They moved in years ago from a town near 'the smoke'.
Over the years they have removed the ancient blackthorns and put in Laylandii.
Trouble is they don't maintain those and they are looming over their nice neighbours who don't complain
One in particular now have a huge great Laylandi hedge less than 1m from their single story extension.
It overhangs the roof, blocks the gutters and god knows what it's doing to the foundations
I thought there were grounds for them to get an enforcement notice service on them by the Local Authority.........

 

[Jimoz]

I built a few houses on the boundary of a tpo woodland. It was a lovely setting old mental home. It created a bit of a headache for the owners of the estate, they had a yearly check of all the trees but it became a bit more important when there were houses on the side of a lean of a massive London plane! Everyone who had a place there loved the setting but the estates person there made some comment like people shouldn't build houses so near to trees. I'm sorry but what you can and can't do ends at your boundary end of story. If it worked like he suggested everyone would plant a s**t load of trees round their boundary to stop anyone building near. I think he was just annoyed his responsibilities multiplied 100x with those houses. Any big branches kill anyone and I presume they'd face corporate manslaughter if shown to be negligent.

 

[Routy56]

I built a few houses on the boundary of a tpo woodland. It was a lovely setting old mental home. It created a bit of a headache for the owners of the estate, they had a yearly check of all the trees but it became a bit more important when there were houses on the side of a lean of a massive London plane! Everyone who had a place there loved the setting but the estates person there made some comment like people shouldn't build houses so near to trees. I'm sorry but what you can and can't do ends at your boundary end of story. If it worked like he suggested everyone would plant a s**t load of trees round their boundary to stop anyone building near. I think he was just annoyed his responsibilities multiplied 100x with those houses. Any big branches kill anyone and I presume they'd face corporate manslaughter if shown to be negligent. View attachment 19932View attachment 19933

Yes London Planes are lovely trees. Another tree surgeon that I used a few years ago did loads of work in London on those huge great trees
Your case as above gives a great example of neighbouring tree and overhanging branches.
And if I am correct, then if you have to cut off stuff overhanging your boundary you can let them have it back
Regarding injury/death from falling branches, scroll back and you will see how I took down my old 'widow maker' willow tree.
In recent winds, large branches were dropping off - that did it for me with grandchildren about. So I dealt with it

This was yesterday - for some reason they love to climb our large silver birch. It has various rope swings on it.
But even that is on borrowed time with rot setting in

 

[CPS]

Total respect for you as a tree surgeon. Great to have your advice on this forum
All the guys I have used have been so professional.
3 years ago I had some guys in to remove 2 dead white willows on my boundary behind my barn.
Leaning the wrong way for me to tackle
View attachment 19927
Unloaded outside the front of my barn and tracked round the back....
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Great piece of kit giving superb access.
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Here's a shot of their nice cherry picker for you all to dribble over
You are absolutely right about boundary trees.
There's a neighbour a few doors away with 3 acres and 7 different boundaries.
They moved in years ago from a town near 'the smoke'.
Over the years they have removed the ancient blackthorns and put in Laylandii.
Trouble is they don't maintain those and they are looming over their nice neighbours who don't complain
One in particular now have a huge great Laylandi hedge less than 1m from their single story extension.
It overhangs the roof, blocks the gutters and god knows what it's doing to the foundations
I thought there were grounds for them to get an enforcement notice service on them by the Local Authority.........

And you thought we called him monkey business because He is a big hairy fella

 

[Monkeybusiness]

And you thought we called him monkey business because He is a big hairy fella

Sadly I’ve got more hair coming out of my nose and ears than on the top of my head!!!