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fred
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My hydrema 15ton duck will lift 10t Fred .... it's pretty amazing what a duck'll handle
Crikey ! How high will it lift it ?
Crikey ! How high will it lift it ?
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
load chart below Bri ..... 3m, blocked, 360, with 500kgs of bucket attached, but a usable range .... she is a hell of a lifter, even FOW / on rubber.
load chart from previous page Fred .... 2m according to that
..... if i ever get the need to try ..... would be according to my finely tuned lifting sensor ....... in me bum
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Old Operator
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The pic is pretty much the machine I have BUT I do not have the slewing kingpost - a weak spot on Gophers, a keyway used to chew up in the slew post as play could be taken up by two locknuts underneath, this meant the post, key & sprocket were never held tight against one another so the key would rock -wearing the keyway. A previous owner's answer was to cobble on the slew mechanism off a much bigger Twose backhoe. This means the slew centre was moved forward about 18'' & the seat is now fixed, meaning the operator is no longer a living counterweight. The machine can now barely keep its rear wheels on the ground even with the hoe folded in. I need to make or get made a new slew post - but this time using a cross pin to transfer the drive from the slew sprocket & rely on adding shims to take up wear. The two single acting puller rams & original chain came as spares with it though. Ideally I need to take a pattern off an existing machine for the post. The 5 star has powered wheel motors, the boss did not.
Some Microns also had these powered wheels. Powerfab bought out the rights to both machines before themselves going pop in about '95. The rights to the Powerfab 125 (similar) is still made by Otas Cz. My machine would be worth about £2K fully working. It is a matter of time to work on it. I did weld up the big bucket, then things got away from me.
Re the Bobcat E10, specs say aux supply 20 Lpm @ 2700 psi. Flow fine for a jack hammer - but pressure maybe a bit high. I meant a hand held - I take the point I am not supposed to be a labourer but the hand held could be connected quickly to deal with a buried wall, with the bucket still on to muck out the trench, also the hand held can be kept in rear of van overnight, not so nickable. See E10 can dig 6 ft - these smaller machines have come on a bit over the years. E10 has a 4''wider track gauge than Vio10 but the Vio has 4'' more track on the ground. I would want to fit some kind of rain roof on the ROPS bar of either. I was sold on an E14 but could see the advantages of either of the above as something to aim at. Can see that makes sense to add attachments as needed. Have never used a ripper tooth, not sure what they would handle - old tarmac maybe, & penetrate compacted hardcore on an old hardstanding, think it would be like all force going into 1 bucket tooth. Thanks for all advice - much to think on
Some Microns also had these powered wheels. Powerfab bought out the rights to both machines before themselves going pop in about '95. The rights to the Powerfab 125 (similar) is still made by Otas Cz. My machine would be worth about £2K fully working. It is a matter of time to work on it. I did weld up the big bucket, then things got away from me.
Re the Bobcat E10, specs say aux supply 20 Lpm @ 2700 psi. Flow fine for a jack hammer - but pressure maybe a bit high. I meant a hand held - I take the point I am not supposed to be a labourer but the hand held could be connected quickly to deal with a buried wall, with the bucket still on to muck out the trench, also the hand held can be kept in rear of van overnight, not so nickable. See E10 can dig 6 ft - these smaller machines have come on a bit over the years. E10 has a 4''wider track gauge than Vio10 but the Vio has 4'' more track on the ground. I would want to fit some kind of rain roof on the ROPS bar of either. I was sold on an E14 but could see the advantages of either of the above as something to aim at. Can see that makes sense to add attachments as needed. Have never used a ripper tooth, not sure what they would handle - old tarmac maybe, & penetrate compacted hardcore on an old hardstanding, think it would be like all force going into 1 bucket tooth. Thanks for all advice - much to think on
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fred
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what is the footprint of your duck, it seems to have a little bit more grunt than they 18 ton EW160C.
Never heard of hydrema, who makes them ? Any UK support ?
Never heard of hydrema, who makes them ? Any UK support ?
Mogman
What man as done, man can do, what never has,maybe
Made in Denmark, big in the light weight articulated dump truck market
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Great machines Fred
..... quality engineered gear ... https://www.hydrema.com/They have a UK presence in Ripon and all the dealings I have had with them, they have been outstandingly helpful .... I think Rob Taylor @Hydremaduck would echo that sentiment too
... especially as my old girl is 21 years old ... parts still available off the shelf. I fell really really lucky when I bought her
.... only one in the UK ... and I'm the second owner (as good as). Was originally Hydrema UK's 'show machine' for 2 years and then sold to a company who did water treatment plant work, cleaning sand filtration beds, hence the bio oil in her .... never been road registered and one op. all its life ... he must've been gutted when he scratched the off side of her ... only mark on it ..... the tyres on her are the original factory fit (and starting to show their age ) .... she spent most of her life on floaties and the twins went back on for sale. Beautiful tool, made to a spec., not a budget they make a very nice range of gear .... although the range is not as extensive as it once was
would love to find one of these ........
they used to make a full range of ducks from 8t upwards and can find plenty of 'em abroad
and some awesome BHLs
the 614 is a rare beast
..... IIRC only forty or so made And here endeth the sermon
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V8Druid
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Furniss
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https://www.mascus.fr/4-occasion/pelle-pneus/hydrema-weimar-900/jjlp7xgn.html
That looks handy tool at sensible money
That looks handy tool at sensible money
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
you'll find a lot of the smaller Hydrema ducks on all sorts of plant sites Boyo .... and they're rarely 'expensive' .... this is an even handier price
https://www.machinio.com/listings/32636191-hydrema-m1100-wheel-excavator-in-pinczow-poland
they get quite a lot on their website
..... been quite a few on Mascus this last year this one's been on there a looooong time and'd probably be bought 'real well'
.... this is #0183 .... mine is #0178 https://www.mascus.fr/4-occasion/pelle-pneus/hydrema-m-1500/lvcrdk8x.html
complete with tilty 19000 euros
a lot of duck for the buck
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fred
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footprint is a little shorter and a little wider than a JCB telehandler by the looks which is ok.
could https://www.mascus.fr/4-occasion/pelle-pneus/hydrema-m-1500/lvcrdk8x.html be road registered ?
How is your diary looking for a quick all expenses paid flit to Poland Mr Druid to have a look at her. I'm very interested.
Just noticed it doesnt have stabs at the rear. Really this are a must for a material handler ?
could https://www.mascus.fr/4-occasion/pelle-pneus/hydrema-m-1500/lvcrdk8x.html be road registered ?
How is your diary looking for a quick all expenses paid flit to Poland Mr Druid to have a look at her. I'm very interested.
Just noticed it doesnt have stabs at the rear. Really this are a must for a material handler ?
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
footprint is a little shorter and a little wider than a JCB telehandler by the looks which is ok.
could https://www.mascus.fr/4-occasion/pelle-pneus/hydrema-m-1500/lvcrdk8x.html be road registered ?
How is your diary looking for a quick all expenses paid flit to Poland Mr Druid to have a look at her. I'm very interested.
Just noticed it doesnt have stabs at the rear. Really this are a must for a material handler ?
In theory it should be register-able .. a few folk on the CEF have experience of doing it
.... IIRC @Grahams has done one ..... the paper trail's a bit of head ache apparently .... I have considered doing mine ..... that machine is in Sweden Fred .....
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place...d33906aea1778be!8m2!3d57.3194423!4d14.5932152
the little M1100 is in Poland ...... much as the idea is very appealing, I don't generally travel well .... the body complains ... 2 hrs to Centerparc, last Monday, gave me a bad night Monday
..... it's bloody frustrating ..... it also has the blade on the rear (fixed axle), the front pendle axle just has the axle locks.TBH I very rarely have to resort to using the legs, but they are handy for a real heavy lift at a reach, if I can't get closer to it ....... really does depend on just how/what you're going to be using it for
, but with the blade and legs down and wheels off the deck it's as good as welded to the planet did you notice this M1520 .... bigger arse, by 700mm than the M1500 ..... but very clean, tidy and tilty clad
..... blade at the rear, legs to the front ... amazingly, less lift capacity at 9.1t PDF of chart below Fred
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fred
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As it will be primarily a material handler, load will be very high on the list. For example setting 6 or 7 M RSJ steels into ridges etc. Will need full stretch.
Maybe the photo but the rams look smaller than the ones on yours.
I'll make some calls when i get time next week and find out about getting a number plate on a non CE plant. Must be able to do it I guess.
Maybe the photo but the rams look smaller than the ones on yours.
I'll make some calls when i get time next week and find out about getting a number plate on a non CE plant. Must be able to do it I guess.
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
I got my Menzi A61 Road registered, but it was a pain to do. I’m away at present, but when I get back I’ll see if I still have the forms.
Don’t remember anything about CE, they were most concerned about proving the date of manufacture. The makers plate and a letter from the manufacturer were not enough for DVLA, so ended up on a Q plate.
Graham
Don’t remember anything about CE, they were most concerned about proving the date of manufacture. The makers plate and a letter from the manufacturer were not enough for DVLA, so ended up on a Q plate.
Graham
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
people get all hung up about Q plates ... just means that year of manufacture is indeterminate (or assembled from parts) ..... little else ..... it gets you registered and is it such an issue on a piece of plant?
Only other thing with Q is you can't put a private / cherished plate on it, AFAIK VA ram does look smaller Fred, but this should be virtually the same tool with a bigger bum
As said elsewhere, the M1500 is good for a ton, 360 FOW, at full reach and 2.1t, 360, blocked....3.1t blocked in line ...... if in doubt, drop the stab.s
.... the load chart for the M1520 is in the PDF I attached
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
I'm back in the office and looked up the forms. Here's a link
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/register-a-used-vehicle-for-the-first-time-v555
v55x5-application-for-first-vehicle-tax-and-registration-of-a-used-motor-vehicle.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/register-a-used-vehicle-for-the-first-time-v555
v55x5-application-for-first-vehicle-tax-and-registration-of-a-used-motor-vehicle.pdf
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
bet that took some filling out Gra
..... love the way they ask for a reg. no. .........and you're applying for one ....... typical Gov. cover everything in one form B.S. ..... and if you don't/can't complete an item, it'll keep bouncing back, I assume ??? ..... talk about making life difficult just spent 20 minutes trying to find VED rate for special vehicles/engineering plant ......... and failed miserably ..... this is a minefield too
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/print and if you are lucky enough to spend more than £40k on a camper (not difficult, I'd have thought) .... there's an extra special tax on top, for you
tax everyone into the ground.... a UK speciality
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
Just fill it out best you can then they send it back marking the bits they don't like, then repeat the same proceedure half a dozen times at least until either they relent and take your money or you give up in discust. Bearing in mind you are trying to give the government money you would have thought they would have been a bit keener.bet that took some filling out Gra
Graham
craig
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£165 to tax engineering plant
I`ve not got enough posts to put a link, but google form v149/1, and on the last page special vehicles class 14
I`ve not got enough posts to put a link, but google form v149/1, and on the last page special vehicles class 14
Mintsauce
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I found they weren't willing to look anything up for themselves. I had to print the relevant pages off and send it in with my application. Toing and froing for several weeks.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
cheers Craig
... same as me cranes used to be ... been the same for years ..... went from £14 a year to £165 over night, many years ago .... and then they introduced HGV requirements for 'truck mounted' machines (although called 'truck' cranes - they were purpose built crane chassis - only recently have companies started mounting crane superstructures on std, commercial chassis)
.... but self propelled (like a Fairy)remained as they were, full car license and over 21
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