GazCro
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How long you looking at keeping it?
doobin
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It wasn’t just power that was the issue with the tb216, it was controllability. The rams were half the size of the Hyundai which can only mean less power regardless of revs. The slew was unpredictable and you had to plan ahead to stop. Same hours as my hyundai- I only had it as the e10 hadn’t yet arrived and I needed two machines.
I’d get a demo if you can, but word is that takeuchi expect you to buy just on the name and don’t do demos. With that attitude and such a s**t machine as the tb216 they can go f**k themselves as far as I’m concerned.
JD450A
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doobin
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Nope.That's a operator issue
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Brendan
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If it was me would be a toss up between the jcb and the takeuchi. Backup from JCB is excellent and I'm sure the 1.9 is a recent revamp so would go that way.
Personally I am not a fan of the bobcat/doosan and feel they are giving 5 years 0% as the only incentive/reason to buy their machines.
Couldn't get a test of the takeuchi when I was looking for micro but other than an arrive and drive for an hour that was all that was on offer which couldn't be arsed with. They offered no sort of interest free finance as we're happy to just sell off their name.
Personally I am not a fan of the bobcat/doosan and feel they are giving 5 years 0% as the only incentive/reason to buy their machines.
Couldn't get a test of the takeuchi when I was looking for micro but other than an arrive and drive for an hour that was all that was on offer which couldn't be arsed with. They offered no sort of interest free finance as we're happy to just sell off their name.
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Keif
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I really like mine and I demoed all the other brands before buying. Still in the low hundreds for hours but so far so good.
To me it had the smoothest hydraulics and pushed dirt(blade) the best compared to the other brands. I don't like that you have to bolt the blade extensions on and off(instead of a pin system).
To me it had the smoothest hydraulics and pushed dirt(blade) the best compared to the other brands. I don't like that you have to bolt the blade extensions on and off(instead of a pin system).
Neilporteous
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I would hope to have the machine for 10 years or so, we use an excavator on every job we do so its a vital part of the tool box!
Neilporteous
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I agree that the 0% finance will be to boost sales because they aren't meeting the forcasted sale figures.
I cant take to JCB mini excavators unfortunately, maybey if I could have a go in one for a full day, never had the opportunity, only had a quick go in an older 8014.
Shovelhands
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I’ve always found JCB to be more than willing to supply a demo machine, more than can be said for others. I’ve never had a demo for less than a week.
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Brendan
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To be fair to the takeuchi dealer the arrive and show for an hour was far more, than I got offered from any of the bobcat and doosan dealers. Even asked for them to even send an old E10 to not put hours on a new machine.
Bought the doosan off of the majority of recommendations for that machine
Bought the doosan off of the majority of recommendations for that machine
Furniss
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I am still pissed at JCB for producing the shite that they did for a few years - I was always JCB right but dont see why I should go back even if the new machines are decent ... no excuse for a company like that to let there lifelong owner ops down by producing crap - unless they apologised by giving me a free one.
GazCro
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The machines haven't been out long enough to prove they are decent yet tho. My father always used to say once the smell of new paint wears off you'll find out how good something is.
GazCro
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The other thing about 0% finance is if it's worked into the machine price they are actually selling you a cheaper machine at an inflated price. Hence its often the manufacturer's at the lower end of the spectrum who offer it
doobin
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Bobcat E27 was at the higher end of the spectrum for what I wanted- a conventional tailswing machine with the largest engine available and double proportional aux. Was between that and the KX30-4 hi-spec, both very similar specs and both £27k. Bobcat had 0% finance, over 5 years that's a few k saved. Plus it matched my micro.... Also, silly as it sounds, kubotas are a pikey magnet. Clearly tht's testament to their desirablilty, but when both were same price/spec it was actually a negative for me. I guess we all justify our machines in our own way, there's no right or wrong answer.
Anyway, I still think the TB216 is a crap puny little machine
TiltyShaun
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I wonder what the difference will be on resale!!Bobcat E27 was at the higher end of the spectrum for what I wanted- a conventional tailswing machine with the largest engine available and double proportional aux. Was between that and the KX30-4 hi-spec, both very similar specs and both £27k. Bobcat had 0% finance, over 5 years that's a few k saved. Plus it matched my micro.... Also, silly as it sounds, kubotas are a pikey magnet. Clearly tht's testament to their desirablilty, but when both were same price/spec it was actually a negative for me. I guess we all justify our machines in our own way, there's no right or wrong answer.
Anyway, I still think the TB216 is a crap puny little machine
I kept most of my new kit for so long it really didn’t make much difference other than the quality lasted. Had a few bobcats as they had longer warranties back when I was buying.
Regy53
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E10s do indeed hold big value, 3 year old one loses 4/5 k trade offer
Gunners
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Doesn't the Takuchi not have a fuel gauge in the cab? I think @JD450A told me this? I mean, thats almost more lazy than the Porsche 911 design team and they havent come up with anything new for decades now - much like the old boys at Landrover with the Defender. But a Defender does have a fuel gauge in it! Must try harder 1 star is my review on the 216.
Buying new its a very wide open market in this hotly contested sector and there are a few firm favourites, and some up coming newcomers.
Kubota - probably the one to beat.
I really don't like Hitatchi's offering in this class - drives jerky, high step into cab, hard to access engine, bad arm geometry.
Doosan/Bobcat are snipping the heals of Kubota but feel a bit cheap in the plastics and bad paint lets them down. Good service access though.
Cat have just released some new models in this range. They look good but Rory had one on hire last week so he can fill us in on how they drive.
JCB have also got some new models out and they do drive well, some nice modern touch's and great service access but yet to see how they stand the test of time.
Wacker Neuson have probably the highest spec sub 2t out there. And it would be on my list to try having given one a good look over at Plantworks last year.
The Volvo looks interesting but hearing their backup on another thread on here, might be worth avoiding.
Yanmar not bad in this class either?
As always it comes down to price and dealer backup. And if Takuchi have your back round your way then make sure you check the fuel every morning. But you wont get a deal on one. Deals come from those keen to win customers, and I imagine that Bobcat and JCB will both be competitive in this current situation. But do let us know who offers what and of course, what you choose to buy! We will then argue amounst ourselves about whether you should or should not have bought whatever you do actually buy. Its tradition!
Buying new its a very wide open market in this hotly contested sector and there are a few firm favourites, and some up coming newcomers.
Kubota - probably the one to beat.
I really don't like Hitatchi's offering in this class - drives jerky, high step into cab, hard to access engine, bad arm geometry.
Doosan/Bobcat are snipping the heals of Kubota but feel a bit cheap in the plastics and bad paint lets them down. Good service access though.
Cat have just released some new models in this range. They look good but Rory had one on hire last week so he can fill us in on how they drive.
JCB have also got some new models out and they do drive well, some nice modern touch's and great service access but yet to see how they stand the test of time.
Wacker Neuson have probably the highest spec sub 2t out there. And it would be on my list to try having given one a good look over at Plantworks last year.
The Volvo looks interesting but hearing their backup on another thread on here, might be worth avoiding.
Yanmar not bad in this class either?
As always it comes down to price and dealer backup. And if Takuchi have your back round your way then make sure you check the fuel every morning. But you wont get a deal on one. Deals come from those keen to win customers, and I imagine that Bobcat and JCB will both be competitive in this current situation. But do let us know who offers what and of course, what you choose to buy! We will then argue amounst ourselves about whether you should or should not have bought whatever you do actually buy. Its tradition!
GazCro
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Takeuchi 219 as you say no in cab fuel guage (don't know about 216) but do have sight tube visible thru bonnet. Tank is big enough that if it's full in morning you'll be nowhere near empty by night tho so ain't a big deal for me. Regarding deals that depends on dealer as well as manufacturer so depends where you are i guess.
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Keif
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TB216 has a digital fuel gauge with a warning light in the cluster and a manual gauge on tank that covers the top gallon. I've been getting about 10hrs per 5 us gallons.
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